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So much for gun control
The Edmonton Sun ^ | August 29, 2005 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 08/29/2005 7:50:53 AM PDT by neverdem

When we first read the headline in last Thursday's Sun - "Feds taking aim at gun violence" - we thought that there must have been some mistake.

Gun violence? What gun violence? We have a very expensive national gun registry that was put into place to ensure that every firearm in Canada can be tracked. We have cumbersome regulations in place that make it more difficult for Canadians to buy guns. We have armies of bureaucrats shuffling paper to and fro to make sure that everything related to guns in this country is all very above-board and law-abiding.

So there can't possibly be any gun violence in Canada!

OK, we made our point. There is still lots of gun violence in Canada, and the gun registry hasn't done a single thing to stop it.

And it's not like we'd ever wish daytime street shootings on anyone, but surely the irony of the latest spate of gunplay to plague Toronto - where shootings have become almost a daily occurrence - is not lost on people. The gun registry was originally put in place by the Liberals to placate urban Ontario voters. And who is currently being terrorized by rampant gun violence? Torontonians.

There's a lesson here to be learned, but neither Toronto voters nor the Liberal party is going to learn it.

Edmonton cabinet minister Anne McLellan declared that "I'm very concerned about the whole question of gun violence and about the whole question of gun smuggling." Great. Although she immediately blunted the impact of those remarks by insisting that "we have no evidence that there are more guns being smuggled into the country than ever before."

Well, there's only one of two choices here, and neither one reflects terribly well on current Liberal crime policies. Either these guns are getting into the country through the United States or from other countries through our ports of entry and the federal government's customs agents are not able to prevent it, or these guns are, in fact, originating from here in Canada and the $2-billion boondoggle of a gun registry is - surprise, surprise! - not stopping criminal from using guns.

Back in late 1994, when then-justice minister Allan Rock first unveiled the gun-control program, he declared, "This tough new gun-control program will improve public safety and also send a strong message that the criminal misuse of guns will not be tolerated."

Eleven years later, the Liberals are suddenly worried about gun crime because Toronto has been blitzed by gun violence. In a more sane country, Toronto would realize that the gun registry has been exposed as an expensive waste of money and would punish the Liberals for lying to them by voting them out. And the Grits would shut down their useless registry and put the money into actual police officers fighting crime.

As we said, these lessons are all going to go unlearned.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 08/29/2005 7:50:53 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Coming soon to a country you're in.


2 posted on 08/29/2005 7:52:38 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: neverdem
It's all our fault. Haven't you figured that out? It is never the Canadian Lefts fault. Everything bad in Canada come from us. It is so much easier that way then thinking about, and solving, problems. Just blame the USA.
3 posted on 08/29/2005 7:54:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you try to be smarter, I will try to be nicer.)
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To: neverdem

Canada's conservative voice is waking up (very cranky too)

I believe when it reaches full-steam it will be a conservative haven up there- most people I know up there have a very healthy attitude about things like this.


4 posted on 08/29/2005 7:55:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: neverdem
How many times is this tried throughout the world? Definition of an idiot; expecting different results by doing the exact same thing. But then again, their real goal is not to stop crime, just disarm the populous. Which is just so willing to oblige.
5 posted on 08/29/2005 7:57:09 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: neverdem
The bad guys have never relied on legal gun sales to get their weapons. It's a pipe dream the liberals keep playing over and over.
6 posted on 08/29/2005 7:58:40 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: neverdem

"Back in late 1994, when then-justice minister Allan Rock first unveiled the gun-control program, he declared, "This tough new gun-control program will improve public safety and also send a strong message that the criminal misuse of guns will not be tolerated."

Giant Flaw #1: a public registry only registers guns of non-criminals. It is a feel good measure designed to appease the liberal weenies that couldn't be trusted to use a sharpened pencil in self defense, but would seize the pencils of those that can.

This is a lesson both Great Britain and Australia are learning. The hard way. Similarly, our biggest cities, where guns are virutally forbidden, gun crime is at its highest. Where guns are "allowed," gun crime is low and lowering.

When the government trusts the people, the people will start trusting the government.


7 posted on 08/29/2005 8:00:34 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: neverdem
Back in late 1994, when then-justice minister Allan Rock first unveiled the gun-control program, he declared, "This tough new gun-control program will improve public safety and also send a strong message that the criminal misuse of guns will not be tolerated."

But for that it appears that most of the gun crime comes from guns they can't register, not ones they can.

8 posted on 08/29/2005 8:00:45 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Mr. K
"Canada's conservative voice is waking up (very cranky too)

Waking up? It's always been there. it's just ignored by the liberals in ottawa and the Liberal media.

In fact the "Conservative voice" is so loud in western provinces from manitoba and even BC ( a bastion of US draft dofgers) that there is a clear majority in every single province that feels separation is the only option left to them.

9 posted on 08/29/2005 8:00:50 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Famishus

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10 posted on 08/29/2005 8:02:03 AM PDT by Famishus (Riding my bicycle in the piscatorial parade.)
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To: neverdem

Its about time the liberals were put in the witness chair and asked the hard questions. Every lib policy maker and every flunky media hack should be put in the spotlight and grilled about the failures of liberalism, and not allowed to slink away into the shadows.


11 posted on 08/29/2005 8:02:45 AM PDT by junta (Invade Mexico, aggressively neutralize its corrupt leadership and introduce civilization.)
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To: junta

It was never about the guns just the control.


12 posted on 08/29/2005 8:04:09 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: MNJohnnie

The Canadian left reminds me of an aunt whose son could do no wrong according to her. If he swore, it was obviously the influence of his evil cousins, when he got caught looking at naughty magazines, they must have been bought by his evil cousins.


13 posted on 08/29/2005 8:04:25 AM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: neverdem
originating from here in Canada and the $2-billion boondoggle of a gun registry is - surprise, surprise! - not stopping criminal from using guns.

The police in West Palm Beach had a buy back program about a month ago. Much publicized. Photographs on the front page. Mostly old guys with vintage hunting rifles that hadn't been cleaned in 30 years.

Didn't see a single gang banger in any of the photos lining up to get rid of their Glocks and Mac 10's.

The evolution of gun control
1. Legislation
2. Registration
3. Confiscation
4. Extermination

14 posted on 08/29/2005 8:05:19 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: neverdem

Criminals ignoring the beancounters and doing what they want, with what they want, when they want ? The hell ya say......eh ?:o)

All that trouble , money and time to write a law that criminals don't respect........hmmmm. What could be the problem ? Criminals have always followed the law before errr......


15 posted on 08/29/2005 8:07:03 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: neverdem


How is a gun LAW going to stop a criminal?

The only people affected are the LAW-ABIDING people who only use guns to SHOOT BACK.


16 posted on 08/29/2005 8:10:50 AM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: neverdem
This is not so hard to figure out. They aimed their laws at the wrong people. Liberals like criminals so they encourage them after all they were mistreated.
17 posted on 08/29/2005 8:11:22 AM PDT by mountainlyons
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To: cowboyway

One good reason to buy up all the old dewats/demills for 20 dollars a piece from SGN (shotgun news)......then sell em to the idiots for clear profit from the buy backs beancounters.....:o)

My other favorite thang to do is get a couple of friends and all wear a common color windbreaker and or T-Shirt, get a high and tight haircut and then cruise the crowd's and lines etc with video & digital cameras and follow a few to their cars etc etc .....paranoia panic is funny.


18 posted on 08/29/2005 8:14:17 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
It is way easier to talk to law abiding people about registering their guns than it is to go out and confront gang bangers.

Liberals do not care how much it costs or how ineffective the program is as long as it provides cushy jobs for other Liberals.

19 posted on 08/29/2005 8:41:40 AM PDT by concrete is my business (prepare the sub grade, then select the mix design)
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To: Fido969

One kind of gun law reduces crime--a law that allows law abiding people to pack heat and shoot back. The other gun laws all promote crime.


20 posted on 08/29/2005 8:44:22 AM PDT by libstripper
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