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Missing Able Danger 'Atta' Chart in 2002 Video
NewsMax.com ^ | August 29, 2005  | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:39 AM PDT by johnny7

A copy of the Able Danger chart that identified lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta as a terrorist operating inside the U.S. a year before the 9/11 attacks is clearly visible in a video of a 2002 speech by delivered by Rep. Curt Weldon to the Heritage Foundation.

The Pentagon, the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Intelligence Committee are currently seeking evidence that the bombshell chart, featuring a photo Atta, ever existed - as claimed by three members of the Able Danger team, along with Rep. Weldon. But so far, no physical evidence of the controversial document has surfaced. Until now.

A third of the way through his May 23, 2002 address on data fusion techniques, the video shows Rep. Weldon unfurling a copy of the now missing document and displaying it to the Heritage audience. "This is the unclassified chart that was done by the Special Forces Command briefing center one year before 9/11," he explains. "It is the complete architecture of al Qaeda and pan-Islamic extremism. It gives all the linkages. It gives all the capabilities. . . ." Though Weldon never mentions Able Danger or Atta by name - and the video never zooms in on the chart to the point where Atta's photo is identifiable - it's clear from Weldon comments that the chart is the same one currently being sought.

Since the Able Danger story broke three weeks ago, the Pennsylvania Republican has repeatedly insisted that he gave a copy of the chart shortly after the 9/11 attacks to then-Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley. In the 2002 speech, Weldon told the same story in greater detail, standing beside a copy of what he said he gave Hadley. "I went to the White House. I don't mean to embarrass this guy cause he's a good friend of mine. But I took a mini version of this chart in Nov. [2001] and I turned it over to him - Steve Hadley, who works directly for [then-National Security Advisor] Condi Rice."

Weldon said Hadley was stunned after viewing the Al Qaeda-Atta document. "This is unbelievable - where'd you get this?" he wanted to know. After being told that the chart was prepared by military intelligence a year before the 9/11 attacks, Hadley said, according to Weldon, "I've got to show this to the man" - apparently referring to President Bush.

In the same speech, Rep. Weldon also revealed that then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Hugh Shelton received a briefing on the Able Danger chart in the closing weeks of the Clinton administration.

To view Rep. Weldon's entire 2002 speech to the Heritage Foundation, go to: http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/2002archive.cfm He displays the al Qaeda-Atta chart approximately 34 minutes into the presentation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abledanger; atta; weldon
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To: kabar; hole_n_one

hno - can you grab a screen shot of the chart and post?


81 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:44 AM PDT by txhurl (:))
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To: txflake

Check out the link in post #75.


82 posted on 08/29/2005 8:51:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PRESSmUP

The program had been shut down since 2000 and there is no reason for the GOP to be squeamish since Bush was not inaugerated until Jan 20 and had no standard transition since the RATS had been trying to steal the election and sabotaged the incoming administration as best they could.

There will be no ducking this for the GOP since there is no dirt that can be stuck to it for its actions.


83 posted on 08/29/2005 8:51:17 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Peach
"Is this report accurate?"

As far as I can tell it is. Get ready for the new spin, though -- now the apologists for the 9/11 O-mission will claim that Weldon and/or Hadley failed to make the chart available, and that without such documentation they couldn't take Col. Shaffer and Capt. Philpott seriously. Then they'll blame the Pentagon for not providing documentation, too. That won't explain why they didn't bother to pursue the leads on Able Danger, but they may be successful in "changing the subject."
84 posted on 08/29/2005 8:52:07 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: drjimmy
Weldon wouldn't get much out of Holland... he didn't arrive on the scene until 10/2000.

Schoomaker... and most of all Gen. Hugh Shelton who ordered the group formed in 1999 would be the people to question.

85 posted on 08/29/2005 8:52:28 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: johnny7

bump


86 posted on 08/29/2005 8:53:26 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: kabar
Weldon never made such a claim so whatever NewsMax might insinuate is beside the fact.

It is not Weldon I am faulting in this particular case. I am faulting Newsmax for making the claim that it is the same chart, with Atta's name and photo on it, that Able Danger supposedly submitted prior to 9/11. There is zero evidence to support that claim. And Freepers who fall for Newsmax's misdirection do themselves no favors.
87 posted on 08/29/2005 8:54:41 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Peach

I don't want any credit but I wish they'd give FREE REPUBLIC the credit!! Freepers rule!


88 posted on 08/29/2005 8:55:19 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: drjimmy
From the NewsMax article:

A third of the way through his May 23, 2002 address on data fusion techniques, the video shows Rep. Weldon unfurling a copy of the now missing document and displaying it to the Heritage audience.

"This is the unclassified chart that was done by the Special Forces Command briefing center one year before 9/11," he explains. "It is the complete architecture of al Qaeda and pan-Islamic extremism. It gives all the linkages. It gives all the capabilities. . . ."

Though Weldon never mentions Able Danger or Atta by name - and the video never zooms in on the chart to the point where Atta's photo is identifiable - it's clear from Weldon comments that the chart is the same one currently being sought.

NewsMax provides its own interpretation, some of it contradictory. Notice they mention that Weldon noted that this was the "unclassified chart." Rather than get into a long discussion of the NewsMax interpretation, it is more important to focus on the substance of Weldon's presentatioin, which is remarkably consistent with what he is saying now. His story has not changed.

89 posted on 08/29/2005 9:04:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Enchante

right you are. and lets not forget this is not about dr. rice. things like that are press head fakes. if the system used was not kosher than sue sombody later. right now it's about the reams of personal information someone had on atta and his pals , only hours after the attacks. also j.pod as some said will have to double down on his first able/danger guessings, as this thing unfolds.


90 posted on 08/29/2005 9:07:44 AM PDT by fantom
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To: johnny7
"Weldon wouldn't get much out of Holland... he didn't arrive on the scene until 10/2000"

But that suggests that Holland was very likely involved in the decision to terminate ABLE DANGER since that happened in early 2001. At the very least Holland probably had to sign off on that decision, even if the initiation came from elsewhere (perhaps the lawyers). So it may indeed be very important to hear from Holland, but for such a top-secret program it may be that he'll only testify to a closed session of one of the Intel committees on the Hill....
91 posted on 08/29/2005 9:08:08 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Sacajaweau

Atta is the big deal because, of all the Islamic names on that list, his sticks out. It's very Western-sounding, very easy to remember, and it's not surprising that they might have remembered it from a list of a couple of dozen names.


92 posted on 08/29/2005 9:14:33 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: drjimmy

Ah, well. More NewsMax. If it were the same chart, wouldn't Weldon have pointed this out to us, without NewsMax putting the pieces together? Flush this "story" down the memory hole.


93 posted on 08/29/2005 9:16:43 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: kabar
"Notice they mention that Weldon noted that this was the "unclassified chart."

yes, Weldon has mentioned recently that there was both a classified and unclassified version of the chart. So that suggests that there are more details and more sensitive items on the 'classified' version....
94 posted on 08/29/2005 9:17:33 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
Re: Clarke's Jan 25 2001 memo came up the the hearings. The memo was address to Steve Hadley. Condi was questioned about this memo at the Commission's Hearings.

Strange. According to Condi, the memo mentions "cells" AND THE FBI pursuing these terrorists. What it doesn't show is whther the cell were in the USA or abroad. IF this memo was SOOOOOOOOOO important, why wasn't it directed directly from Clarke to Condi? Who wrote Condi in? Hadley? Clarke? BERGER?.....and WHY??

95 posted on 08/29/2005 9:21:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: AmishDude
That's my point. The Atta name is a distraction to the overall of Able Danger. The words are "CELL", USA, BROOKLYN, CALIFORNIA, FBI, CIA, PENTAGON.
96 posted on 08/29/2005 9:28:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mass55th

From what I've heard since Saturday, Able Danger identified a lot more people than just Condi Rice. I would love to know who they are. I think the silence in the MSM speaks volumns.


98 posted on 08/29/2005 9:47:21 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: saveliberty

Who is going to bring the charges?


99 posted on 08/29/2005 9:51:39 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: PRESSmUP

After the lawyers stopped the recommendation in Sept 2000 that action be taken against the Atta cell Able Danger became for all practical purposes inoperative. By December it was not considered significant by the Clintons' or at worst a danger to themselves.

Its final end came within weeks of the new administration's inaugural when no one incoming to DoD knew what it was capable of and there was no briefing by the outgoing touting its value. Given the tremendous number of small units, projects etc. at DoD this is hardly a shock. Particularly when there was no one to speak on AD's behalf.


100 posted on 08/29/2005 10:02:32 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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