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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: southlake_hoosier
Would this mean that there is oil pumping into the water where the oil rig used to be? Just wondering?

No. Oil rigs shutin at the sea floor. The oil rig might be ripped away, but it should not be spilling oil.

However, interrupting oil production (if enough production is affected) can affect prices.

1,581 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:10 AM PDT by topher (God bless and protect our troops and service personnel around the world)
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To: LibertyRocks

Water coming in 2nd floor of Beau Rivage - Reporter says this is confirmed. 15-16 ft. above ground.


1,582 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: maineman

I guess that would explain all the severe damage reports from the NWS? The media isn't hyping what is being reported by emergency management.

Damage is extensive.


1,583 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:13 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: maineman
I think that the media wants to make this storm look much worse than what it really is

This storm is still as strong as Charley was at landfall. And it's much, much, MUCH larger. Folks are having to climb to their roofs in NO. And you think this storm has been hyped? You have NO IDEA how bad things might be on the ground right now. It took them a day to figure out that Andrew trashed Homestead.

1,584 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:21 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: cyborg

You too, huh... Sounded like a kid playing in the rain. After seeing this, I'm not so sure he went into journalism for the work as much as the thrills. He is nuts. Only after nearly getting crushed and/or impaled by flying roof did he decide that it might be a good idea to get to cover. (He is probably still sticking his head around the corner of the building now and then.)


1,585 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:23 AM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all in the path of Katrina)
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To: kowabunga

Why am I suspicious of your claims? Hmmmm Aug 29,2005 signup.


1,586 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:27 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Ol' Sox

Any one have confirmation on the FOX report that the Mississipi levee broke in the French Quarter?


1,587 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:30 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: kowabunga

Sounds like the central park where soccer is played


1,588 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:31 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Section 9 French Quarter levee breeched. FOX


1,589 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:34 AM PDT by Broker (Semper Fi)
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To: eyespysomething

Beau Rivage flooding up to second floor


1,590 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:36 AM PDT by eyespysomething (What disgusts me the most is how other GStar families have had their wounds ripped back open! FU CS)
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To: battlegearboat

I'm listening to Fox in the background. Somebody just said flooding is getting serious in the French Quarter. Has Shep been on, if so I missed him.


1,592 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:55 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: maineman

No no, this storm is very dangerous, no doubt.


1,593 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:57 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: sheikdetailfeather
On this one I agree. Fox news is being dramatic to the nth degree.
1,594 posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:59 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: palmer

Thanks. It just seemed like a westward shift. Not that it matters with this MOAS.


1,595 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:05 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Ol' Sox
Here's a map of known FReepers who are riding out the storm. It was generated with Google Earth and it includes live NSSL Hi-Res Reflectivity Radar. (1020 EDT)

We're keeping track of FReepers in Katrina's path in this thread. Much larger versions of this map are posted there, so keep in mind that the thread is graphics heavy at times. I got this image as small as I could get it.


1,596 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:13 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: cyborg

He said "SugarBowl".


1,597 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:17 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: RushCrush
I agree. Nobody wants to see that guy standing outside. I keep having visions of his head being severed by flying debris. What is he really contributing here?

It's too "drama queen" for me. A more interesting approach would be to set up electronically controlled remotes in various sites. Some interacting, some not. Several in the dome, some on the beach, on the lake, at the levee... Some in police cars etc. Just to have people standing in the wind is boring and stupid. And please, it's not more dramatic if there's rain on the lens. Wipe it off. We know it's raining.

1,598 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:28 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Gondring
"Tell me...why is the silt being deposited way out into the Gulf? Because the natural distributary process has been subverted! I'm not talking about today...think longer-term and broader."

Still don't see why Mississippi River silt has anything whatsoever to do with New Orleans possibly flooding. The "fouled up" silt deposition is why the coastal swamps shoreline are creeping north, not why New Orleans is below sea level. Of course, fixing that silt distribution would be very easy---just cut two "east-west" channels well up the isthmus---one from the Missippi towards the east, and one from the Mississippi towards the west.

"Secondly, levees could breach in multiple places. Lake Pontchartrain AND the river...but that's not the point. Why is there a levee for Lake P.? Perhaps because of its elevation relative to the the developed areas? Why such a difference? Again, think of long-term policies, not just today."

Breaching of the Mississippi River levees by a hurricane is so unlikely as to approach zero, as the levees are higher compared to Ponchartrain. The reason New Orleans is below sea level is because the LAND IS SINKING, due to the huge weight of all the buildings (built on Jello), and the pumping out of groundwater. Again--nothing to do with river silt.

"(And I note that the river elevation is "high," and the lake elevation is the "normal.")"

I assume you mean that for your graphic, which probably represents the Mississippi level at "flood stage", which only occurs in early spring. The river level during hurricane season is obviously much lower.

1,599 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:37 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: kowabunga

Quit posting that idiocy. It ain't funny right now.


1,600 posted on 08/29/2005 7:24:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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