Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph (Mayor irresponsible in evac delay)

BC ^ | August 28, 2005 | Mary Foster

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

I hope you told her he's not responsible for everything on the face of the earth.

Not to mention that fact that Bush definitely does not control the Louisiana National Guard.

[ErnBatavia]

I wonder what the media would be saying if Mayor Nagin had been a Republican...

I'm sure there are people hard at work, putting together their 'talking points'...this WILL get politicized, unless Katrina hangs a hard U-Turn and dies in the gulf.

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

freeangel: My dear dem mother asked me today why the President did not send the National Guard in with buses to get people out of there.

Bittersweetmd: I WONDER THE SAME THING AND I am a Republican.

The only way you could wonder this is if you are ignorant. Bush does not control the National Guard.

[Verginius Rufus]

FNC had Haley Barbour on the phone, and he remembered how during Hurricane Camille a bunch of people having one of those hurricane parties got themselves killed (I think he said "dozens"). Camille was in 1969 and killed 256 in all.

[nairBResal]

Looks like the face on Mars.

Quick call Art Bell.

[Howlin]

Precisely!

[SkyPilot]

mandatory last 18 hours, voluntary 24 hours before that.... It is easy to sharpshoot decisions, isn't it?

As wardaddy pointed out, your time reference is not correct. Many, many people are now wondering why they did not order a mandatory evac yesterday. I escaped Ivan last fall, and we took off 2 days prior. It was mandatory all along the coast earlier than this ordered evacuation. Already, even CNN is beginning to ask "Was this evacuation handled appropriately?"

If there is tremendous loss of life (I pray that is not the case), the mayor and govenor's actions are going to come under a microscope. Myself, I believe storms like this are an act of Almighty God. But this thread was almost immediately about the evacuation delay, even in an editorial to the title (Mayor irreponsible in evac delay.

I am not sure what is going to happen, but this is going to be a mess.

[Blzbba]

"Why did Mayor Ray Nagin wait so long."



For the same reason the mayor in Jaws didn't want to shut down Amity Beach after the first shark attack...

[BJungNan]

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You got that right. And you ain't heard the half of it.

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[BJungNan]

Actually 24 hours (he did so around 5am your/my Coachella Valley time).

More than one person has it with a shorter time frame than that. When did he make the announcement? Was it today? At what time today (New Orleans time)?

[benjaminjjones]

It's clearly a nipple.

An inny or an outy?

[ErnBatavia]

By the way, how much does your city pay it's city manager? I bet it is not $322,000 but I also understand it is not far off that mark.

Ha! Our city manager Genovese is on probation for repeated drunk driving offenses, so he's probably not asking for raises these days....but Indio takes the cake; they made their new hire an instant zillionaire!

Thanks for the links regarding our little slice of "Chicago"!!

[Hat-Trick]

Not the best choice of words....

Certainly not, and they also demonstrate the short-term thinking inherent in most politicians of any stripe. Statistically, he MIGHT be right, but it is certainly possible that another Cat 5 storm could make a direct hit on NO next year. What this mayor and the LA Governor do to prepare for future storms after Katrina (preparedness, shelters, evac plans, etc.) will be very interesting. Personally (being a cynic), I don't expect it to be much of an improvement.

[savedbygrace]

You have to use some imagination, but if you look at it hard enough, it'll look like an outy. Or maybe it's just a mole.

[B4Ranch]

Where does self responsibility come into this picture?

I feel that I am responsible for the safety of my wife and daughters from hurricanes, snow storms, floods, civil disturbances, etc. I am not willing to advocate this responsibility to the Mayor, Governor or the President.

When I hear, even a rumor that there is going to be a catastrophic event, I always do some checking to see if anyone of my family could be affected. If so I make plans to remove them from the area.

Anyone in NO who is willing to sit around until they are ordered to leave the area has, IMO, advocated a personal responsibility that I am unwilling to do.

Just the mention of a CAT 5 hurricane should have alarmed every reasonable person on the entire Gulf of Mexico.