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Posted on 08/28/2005 9:35:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse
Extremely dangerous Hurricane Katrina is bearing down on the North Central Gulf of Mexico. Mandatory evacuation of New Orleans is finally underway. Louisiana officials are warning of complete failure to levy systems, and pleading with people to leave low lying areas. For those who choose to stay, they are recommending picks and axes for breaking through to access their roofs during flooding.
Due to the size and intensity of this storm, all interests in the North Gulf of Mexico should be rushing hurricane preparations to completion.
The following links are self-updating:
Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi
Buoy Data Florida
Images:
New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait
Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop
Northwest Florida Long Range Radar
Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop
Other Resources:
Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics
Live streaming:
copy/paste into player:
http://www.wjbo.com - BR radio station. Callers calling in and describing traffic etc.
WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12
| Category | Wind Speed | Barometric Pressure | Storm Surge | Damage Potential |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tropical Depression |
< 39 mph < 34 kts |
Minimal | ||
| Tropical Storm |
39 - 73 mph 34 - 63 kts |
Minimal | ||
| Hurricane 1 (Weak) |
74 - 95 mph 64 - 82 kts |
28.94" or more 980.02 mb or more |
4.0' - 5.0' 1.2 m - 1.5 m |
Minimal damage to vegetation |
| Hurricane 2 (Moderate) |
96 - 110 mph 83 - 95 kts |
28.50" - 28.93" 965.12 mb - 979.68 mb |
6.0' - 8.0' 1.8 m - 2.4 m |
Moderate damage to houses |
| Hurricane 3 (Strong) |
111 - 130 mph 96 - 112 kts |
27.91" - 28.49" 945.14 mb - 964.78 mb |
9.0' - 12.0' 2.7 m - 3.7 m |
Extensive damage to small buildings |
| Hurricane 4 (Very strong) |
131 - 155 mph 113 - 135 kts |
27.17" - 27.90" 920.08 mb - 944.80 mb |
13.0' - 18.0' 3.9 m - 5.5 m |
Extreme structural damage |
| Hurricane 5 (Devastating) |
Greater than 155 mph Greater than 135 kts |
Less than 27.17" Less than 920.08 mb |
Greater than 18.0' Greater than 5.5m |
Catastrophic building failures possible |
I would not want to be inside the stadium with an F3 tornado pounding it for an an entire half of a football game.
But it *is* the best of all possible shelters down there. I just think they have billed it as more than it is, and tempted too many people who could have left the city.
Where was your Dad located before the evac?
I see that after I read more posts. It makes sense. That area is snake infested anyway. What an awful situation to be in. Prayers for all who are in the path of this monster.
How many will remember toilet paper?
Controlling the Mississippi river did not come into peoples’ minds until they saw that the Mississippi was slowly starting to change its course again and totally avoid New Orleans. This first started to get serious after Captain Henry Shreve cleared a large logjam in 1831 that was blocking water from going down the Atchafalaya River. After he had cleared the raft (logjam) the waters from the Miss started to flow down the Atchafalaya more and more. This started to worry the people that owned businesses in New Orleans and the politicians in the state. Not only was New Orleans a popular place for tourists to go, it was also one of the major ports in the United States. In an attempt to slow or even stop the natural process the river wanted to take the Army Corp of Engineers built a structure that would monitor and control the amount of water that flowed into the Atchafalaya from the Mississippi. This structure is called the Old River Structure. With this new structure built the Army Engineers can also stop major floodwaters from reaching New Orleans. If a flood that would threaten New Orleans would start to flow down the Mississippi river the engineers could open up the locks that control the waters form going down the Atchafalaya and let the waters go down toward Morgan City instead of New Orleans.
With winds in excess of 200 mph and tides over 20 feet, Hurricane Camille smashed into the Mississippi Gulf Coast on Sunday night, the 17th of August and continued its devastating path until the early hours of Monday, the 18th.
The photos below were taken within a few days of the storm by Mr. Chauncey Hinman of Gulfport. Click HERE to view photos.
Yes but Jim would have the sense to leave those bone heads will stay forever
I'm in NE FL. That's weird about no tides. I've been looking at this
http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/jet/1_05/anis.html
and the satellite images from NHC, she takes up about 1/2 the gulf now.
Monster is definitely right!
Not nearly enough.
I don't think I'd risk being trapped in the arena with a huge crowd. I anticipate big trouble in that prison.
Hurricane Katrina Intermediate Advisory Number 23a
Statement as of 1:00 PM CDT on August 28, 2005
...Potentially catastrophic Hurricane Katrina menacing the northern
Gulf Coast...
a Hurricane Warning is in effect for the north central Gulf Coast
from Morgan City Louisiana eastward to the Alabama/Florida
border...including the city of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain.
A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to
protect life and property should be rushed to completion.
A Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch are in effect from
east of the Alabama/Florida border to Destin Florida...and from
west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City Louisiana. A Tropical
Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. A Hurricane Watch
means that hurricane conditions are possible within the watch
area...generally within 36 hours.
A Tropical Storm Warning is also in effect from Destin Florida
eastward to Indian Pass Florida...and from Intracoastal City
Louisiana westward to Cameron Louisiana.
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
At 1 PM CDT...1800z...the center of Hurricane Katrina was located
near latitude 26.5 north... longitude 88.6 west or about 180 miles
south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River.
Katrina is moving toward the northwest near 13 mph...and a turn
toward the north-northwest is expected over the next 24 hours.
Maximum sustained winds are near 175 mph...with higher gusts.
Katrina is a potentially catastrophic category five hurricane on
the Saffir-Simpson scale. Some fluctuations in strength are likely
during the next 24 hours.
Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 105 miles from the
center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 205 miles.
The estimated minimum central pressure is 906 mb...26.75 inches.
Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tide
levels...locally as high as 28 feet along with large and dangerous
battering waves...can be expected near and to the east of where the
center makes landfall. Significant storm surge flooding will occur
elsewhere along the central and northeastern Gulf of Mexico coast.
Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated maximum amounts of
15 inches...are possible along the path of Katrina across the Gulf
Coast and the Tennessee Valley. Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inches
are possible across the Ohio Valley into the eastern Great Lakes
region Tuesday and Wednesday.
Isolated tornadoes will be possible beginning this evening over
southern portions of Louisiana...Mississippi...and Alabama...and
over the Florida Panhandle.
Repeating the 1 PM CDT position...26.5 N... 88.6 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 13 mph. Maximum sustained winds...
175 mph. Minimum central pressure... 906 mb.
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
4 PM CDT.
Forecaster Pasch
New Orleans is all hype it is on the northwest side of the storm away from the tidal surge. If the media knew what they were talking about they would not be frieghening people in new orleans. The tidal surge is on the east side of the storm when Ivan hit alabama the east side had the storm surge. New Orleans will be on the west side and there will be very little flooding.
The media is a joke there are no live video feeds from crawford so they use a military phone hook when Bush gives a press conference from there. They play his whole press conference on terrible audio. Why can't they just wait ten minutes then play the video with good audio quality. During a hurricane you want people to feel secured not on a terrible audio line. Then they wind up having to run the press conference again and cut if off short. Just play the press conference once with audio.
I'm directing this to you, but I mean this for all the people joining this thread:
We've gotten along just fine for the last week without any of that crap. Knock it off, please.
YOU ARE WRONG.
Now apologize to everybody you've been snotty to.
You're absolutely right! The President had a very small window to get his message out about Iraq's constitution. And he won't get much chance for days now because of the NO news.
...STORM SURGE FLOOD AND STORM TIDE IMPACTS...
KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF OF
MEXICO COAST AS A CATASTROPHIC LIFE THREATENING HURRICANE. WHILE
EXACT LOCATION LANDFALL IS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME...SIGNIFICANT AND
LIFE THREATENING STORM SURGE 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL IS POSSIBLE
NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF THE LANDFALL AREA. A FEW AREAS MAY
EXPERIENCE STORM SURGE FLOODING AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE
AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. RESIDENTS IN AREAS PRONE TO STORM SURGE
FLOODING SHOULD LEAVE NOW! HEED EVACUATION RECOMMENDATION FROM LOCAL
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS. SECONDARY ROADS OUTSIDE LEVEE
PROTECTION WILL LIKELY BECOME IMPASSABLE THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT.
...WIND IMPACTS...
EAST TO NORTHEAST WIND OF 20 TO 25 MPH SHOULD CONTINUE OVER
THE REGION TODAY...THEN INCREASE LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING
TONIGHT. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO OVERSPREAD THE
COASTAL AREAS THIS EVENING AND THE REMAINDER OF THE INLAND AREAS BY
EARLY MONDAY MORNING. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO BEGIN BY
MIDNIGHT AND MOVE INLAND MONDAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON.
KATRINA IS FORECAST TO MOVE ASHORE AS CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE...
SIMILAR IN STRENGTH TO HURRICANE CAMILLE IN 1969. WINDS ASSOCIATED
CATEGORY 4 AND CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE CAN TOTALLY DESTROY MOBILE
HOMES...AND CAUSE MAJOR DAMAGE TO EVEN WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDINGS.
HIGHER WIND SPEEDS ARE LIKELY TO BE EXPERIENCED ON UPPER FLOORS OF
TALL BUILDINGS CAUSING DAMAGE.
...RAINFALL...
RAINFALL TOTALS OF 8 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE NORTH AND SOUTH OF LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN
AND THE MISSISSIPPI COAST.
ROFLMAOASTD
They will have no other recourse. Hopefully the Engineers have taken it into account and have the demo guys on standby. The demo guys I'm talking about would be Navy Seabees and Combat Engineers.
He should shut up.
The bowl is 6-18 feet BELOW sea level. The only places higher is where it was filled under structure. So tall building are above water, but travel will be impossible.
Only pumps will be of any value, and they do have plenty of those, but they need electricity.
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