Live Thread - Hurricane Katrina, Part IV (Update: Now a Category 5 )

NOAA - NHC ^ | 27 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

[SE Mom]

Evac orders for Mobile in a few mins per FOX NEWS

[al_again]

That's a dumb thing to say! Dennis was a CAT V 24 hours before landfall - ended up being CAT III at 115 - damage was minimal.

It's shaping up to do the same with Katrina. Eyewall replacement cycle and then getting shear off the coast could really reduce this thing. Not saying this will happen but it very well could. Those that boarded up will have saved themselves significant damage by doing so.

Another factor - if the strike point is east - the highest winds will be well NE of NO.

[Diddle E. Squat]

The mayor said that they have a plan to commandeer other buildings as overflow shelters, should the need arise.

[LA Woman3]

Oh my gosh! Your post gave me chills!
Please be safe!

[NautiNurse]

Yes--I am starting a new thread within the hour. Will give ten minute heads up, and links. Then request for this thread to be locked.

[bannie]

ha!

[spycatcher]

That's not too far-fetched. I just saw something about hurricanes creating earth tremors on their own.

But it would be a longshot as far as triggering any big earthquake.

[LadyPilgrim]

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+12+-update+3600

Here is another loop view!

God bless all in the path of this storm!

[CajunConservative]

In many ways, a 20-25 foot storm surge will act like a tsunami. Anyone who faces that has very grim prospects of surviving.

Exactly. I have read the stories of those who survived Audrey's storm surge and it was like the tsunami, just not as widespread.

[Howlin]

LOL......yes, as we say around here, quoting Richard Pryor, "That's a hint for your a$$."

[yield 2 the right]

I fear that the jihadis will realize the same thing, I sure hope not.

ME TOO!!

[Laurita]

The "plan" was always to "get drunk and screw" (with all due repect to Mr Buffett). There are so many people in NO who don't even OWN cars. There's just no way to evacuate a city the size of New Orleans. Not to mention everthing else between Baton Rouge and the coast. The prevailing thought in New Orleans is that if it can't be done, why worry about it. Afterwards, people will say "it can't happen again, we're safe now."

[nwctwx]

Joe Lundberg is an excellent forecaster. I met him last month... he's not one to hype so much.

[bjs1779]

In many ways, a 20-25 foot storm surge will act like a tsunami. Anyone who faces that has very grim prospects of surviving

I read that the levies are 16 to 22 feet high, and I don't know if that is even above sea level or from normal ground level measurement. Grim no matter what.

[LA Woman3]

We are outside of Baton Rouge.

[jimbergin]

your citing something 60+ years old! Do you have a source for this statement!

[FReepaholic]

...Apparently, the oil companies have provided no redundancy in this critical infrastructure.

You might be interested in this:

US Gulf of Mexico Oil and Gas Production Impact Estimate for AAL122005 (Katrina)

Doesn't look good for gas prices in the near future.

[streetpreacher]

http://www.answers.com/topic/hurricane-camille

The Hurricane Party

One persistent legend about Camille states that a hurricane party was held on the third floor of the Richelieu Manor Apartments in Pass Christian, Mississippi that wound up in the path of the eyewall as it made landfall. The high storm surge flooded and destroyed the building, and there was only one survivor to tell of the story of the 21 others. Who the survivor is, how many party guests there were, and just how far the sole survivor was swept by the storm varies with the retelling.

In reality, most of the people that stayed in the Richelieu Apartments survived, and there was no party. Residents, exhausted from helping to prepare the town to weather the storm, took refuge in the building not out of recklessness, but because it was believed to be one of the sturdiest buildings in the area. Survivor Ben Duckworth is quoted in Hurricane Camille: Monster Storm of the Gulf Coast as stating that the Richelieu was a designated civil defense air-raid shelter. However, their faith in the building's sturdiness was unfounded, as it was completely demolished by the storm. Twenty-three people are known to have stayed in the Richelieu Apartments during Hurricane Camille, but only eight died.

The mythical hurricane party has been referenced several times in pop culture, and formed the basis for an episode of Quantum Leap titled "Hurricane".

 

[Reborn]

During Camille, there were 75 I think, who stayed for the hurricane party at that apartment complex which was leveled down to the foundation slab..ONE survived...and I think only 3 other bodies were ever recovered..

I watched a program several years ago on TWC about some woman (who lived in an apartment complex) who talked a bunch of folks into STAYING and partying during the 'cane cause the complex was solid concrete, and there had been 'canes hit before, but none of 'em could take the place down. Everyone was partying on the 3rd story when the 'cane hit. SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SURVIVED!!! I couldn't remember the 'cane that did it. I guess it was Camille.

I went through Betsy, and THAT was hell, especially for the folks in St. Bernard Parish. Katrina will be so much worse.

[NautiNurse]

Will add that link to the next thread--thank you!