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Trade agreements hurt America
The Courier, Waterloo, IA ^ | Friday, August 26, 2005 | MRS. JOE SADLER

Posted on 08/27/2005 11:33:23 AM PDT by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

JESUP --- Why the Central America Free Trade Agreement? Why should anyone want to integrate the United States with Mexico and Canada, and destroy everything we know and love? Our country is so different in freedom from other countries in the world.

The Council on Foreign Relations has a 59-page document establishing a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a "common outer security perimeter." This plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. It demands we implement "the Social Security Agreement between the United States and Mexico." Putting illegal aliens into our Social Security system would bankrupt the system. CAFTA is part of the plan.

In June 2005 the Senate Republican Policy Committee released a statement arguing that should CAFTA pass its purpose is "integrating more closely with 54 hemispheric neighbors." President George W. Bush signed the declaration in Quebec City on April 22, 2001.

CAFTA is not about free trade. It means sending raw materials to poor countries where they can hire cheap labor and avoid U.S. employment, safety and environmental regulations and then bring the finished goods to the United States duty-free to undersell U.S. companies who comply with our laws.

The maintenance of American sovereignty is essential for our security and is beneficial to the peace of the world. Our freedom depends on keeping our sovereignty. Hopefully our next president will be a man who will stand up for American sovereignty.


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1 posted on 08/27/2005 11:33:25 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

The only reason the multinational streetwalkers who like this crap still have any presence in the US is because they use our legal system to protect themselves.


2 posted on 08/27/2005 11:45:25 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: Willie Green
Oh willie, you isolationist sour-puss bigot. Didn't you get the memo? Conservatives are happy, optimistic people. Try having a good belly laugh today. It will do wonders for your health. Here's an example of what laughter looks like:

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3 posted on 08/27/2005 11:57:10 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Texas: Another cowboy for '08 please. Same qualities as the last one.)
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To: Willie Green

Willie you are preaching to many of the same type of dumb asses that Churchill tried to show the light in Britian about the Nazis.
Keep up the effort. Unfortunately you will be proven correct unless American changes its direction.


5 posted on 08/27/2005 12:12:00 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
Wow! Thank-you!!!!
Compliments like that are few and far between... but I greatly appreciate them!
6 posted on 08/27/2005 12:15:35 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Ignorant Know-Nothingism alert!


Newsflash: Freedom and Free-market capitalism works!!!
7 posted on 08/27/2005 12:21:05 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Willie Green
Still at it I see after how many years??

BTTT

8 posted on 08/27/2005 12:21:36 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: em2vn
The Council on Foreign Relations has a 59-page document establishing a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a "common outer security perimeter." This plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. It demands we implement "the Social Security Agreement between the United States and Mexico."

Putting illegal aliens into our Social Security system would bankrupt the system. CAFTA is part of the plan.

?....Was THIS another... 'five year plan'... drawn up in Soviet Moscow years ago?

/sarcasm?

10 posted on 08/27/2005 12:24:39 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Reaganez
Tell me...

How is taking a manufacturing base, and moving it overseas, or to cheap labor, bettering a "Free Market Society"? That is of course you are considering the United States that free market society...

Or, are you calling our global efforts a free market society? If you are, then you are quite flawed.

If you are concerned with the US's state, you are quite flawed...

Either way, it appears you're quite flawed.

12 posted on 08/27/2005 12:26:59 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Miss the Gipper
Huge budget deficits and trade deficits are hurting our country. What is so conservative about running up debt?

Who sold you that bill of bullsh*t that trade deficits are a bad thing? Quite the contrary, trade deficits show prosperity. It shows there is a lot of disposable income in the hands of Americans. A trade deficit is a sign of prosperity.

13 posted on 08/27/2005 12:28:01 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Texas: Another cowboy for '08 please. Same qualities as the last.)
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To: DuckFan4ever
A trade deficit is a sign of prosperity.

And the band played on................ô¿ô¬

14 posted on 08/27/2005 12:33:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: DuckFan4ever
A trade deficit is a sign of prosperity.

TRADE DEFICIT: Formally termed a balance of trade deficit, a condition in which a nation's imports are greater than exports. In other words, a country is buying more stuff for foreigners than foreigners are buying from domestic producers. A trade deficit is usually thought to be bad for a country. For this reason, some countries seek to reduce their trade deficit by--
  1. establishing trade barriers on imports,
  2. reducing the exchange rate (termed devaluation) such that exports are less expensive and imports more expensive, or
  3. invading foreign countries with sizable armies.

The Road to Productive Wealth

The only true key to wealth lies in production. While you can increase your own wealth at the expense of others, we all become wealthier when productive resources are increased. Greater wealth for our economy lies in increasing the quantity or quality of productive resources -- labor, capital, and natural resources. This is done by investing in education, capital goods, research and development, and technology.

What works for our economy, can also work for each of us. You can acquire wealth by education, buying productive capital goods, inventing a new product, and assorted other improvements in productive resources.


15 posted on 08/27/2005 12:36:12 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: sit-rep
Still at it I see after how many years??

Well, 7+ years here on FR.
But before I had Internet access, I suppose I actually started
when Papa Bush backstabbed us and I had to vote for Perot.
;^)

16 posted on 08/27/2005 12:42:19 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green; All
Ya know, I do not know a whole lot about this other than what Iv'e read in the past, and what my gut tells me.

If we look at the argument in the beginning of Nafta and Gatt, it appeared good on paper, and it sounded good when folks said, "Hey! build foreign economies and they can start buying from us...it's a win win situation!!"

I now see this to be a load of crap. This does not pertain totally to Willie's thread, it pertains to "Free Trade" in general. Trade with the Chicoms is a joke. A look at the trade deficit figures is self explanatory. not to mention our products are tariffed, their's are not. To boot, now that they have their own manufacturing base, what the hell do they need to buy from us in the future...you know, when they were supposed to start buying from us?!?!?!

My gut tells me that America was sold down the river years back...when the business lobby and our wonderful politicians agreed to pass legislation for exporting manufacturing.

I swing a hammer for a living, and I have kids which means I buy a lot of products. From Toys to tools and with the tools a lot of fasteners(Nails/screws). Every F%$#^&! thing is "Made in China" INCLUDING technology today. What the hell do they need from us tomorrow??

The only folks benefiting from free trade, are the foreign Governments, and American Stockholders. Give me a real answer...not some Liberal talking point tripe!

17 posted on 08/27/2005 12:51:47 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Reaganez
Pity that China is neither free or wants "free-trade".
18 posted on 08/27/2005 2:43:07 PM PDT by TheFrog
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To: sit-rep
Ya know, I do not know a whole lot about this other than what Iv'e read in the past, and what my gut tells me.

I think, in general, it's best to go with your gut feeling.

I started reading CAFTA at:

http://ustr.gov/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/CAFTA/CAFTA-DR_Final_Texts/Section_Index.html

I found the part that Ron Paul objected to - where it regulated (and mostly eliminates) non-prescription suppliments by adopting The Codex Alimentarius Commission under CAFTA's Santary and Phytosanitary section. Bad stuff, eliminated consumer freedom. There are allegations that the pharmacutical industry runs the Codex Commission, but I haven't researched that yet.

There are references to a LOT of other organizations and things that I haven't looked up yet: General Rules of Interpretation of the Harmonized System, World Customs Organization, Committee on Trade Capacity Building, WTO SPS Committee, International Plant Protection Convention, International Office of Epizootics, and the WTO Agreement on Technical Barriers to Trade.

19 posted on 08/27/2005 3:24:30 PM PDT by SCalGal
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To: SCalGal
Saved the link.

bttt

20 posted on 08/27/2005 3:42:26 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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