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BRAC Votes to Keep Cannon AFB open but with no mission (my title)
BRAC via C-span ^ | August 26, 2005 | BRAC

Posted on 08/26/2005 10:55:02 AM PDT by CedarDave

BRAC commission just voted to keep Cannon AFB open until December 31, 2009, but with no mission. Existing fighter wings will be transfered as proposed by DOD. If the AF/DOD does not find a mission by that time, it will be closed. Vote was 6-1-2 recusals.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: brac; cannonafb
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1 posted on 08/26/2005 10:55:03 AM PDT by CedarDave
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They could always put a refinery on it. I'm sure the locals would dig the jobs.


2 posted on 08/26/2005 10:57:12 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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Thanks. I'm waiting to hear about Willow Grove Naval Air Station.


3 posted on 08/26/2005 10:57:43 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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Open, with no mission. Gee, that sounds smart.


4 posted on 08/26/2005 10:58:48 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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If there is no mission, why keep it open? With the units coming back from Europe, was there nothing that could be found for this base? Removing the active squadrons will mean the numbr of employees there will plummet; given that I would rather see it closed so the city can do something with the post, instead of having a big empty parking lot with a few dozen Air Force guards languishing there.


5 posted on 08/26/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by AzSteven (I think I need to build me a new hunting blind)
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To: CedarDave
Watching on C-Span in office. When AP or ABQ comes up with a link, I will update the thread.

Commissioners used the term "enclave" to refer to the status of the base in the interim. The commission recognized the need to keep the base intact for future missions due to its rather remote location, adjacent open terrain for training, excellent weather, no urban encroachment.

IMO, it is a holding action only. The term "Kick the can down the road" comes to mind.
6 posted on 08/26/2005 11:00:00 AM PDT by CedarDave (On my way to Crawford from NM for 08/27 rally. Five years a FReeper - 08/17/00)
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Thanks. I missed the actual motion that was approved, but from what it sounded like in the discussion afterward, they are keeping the base open without planes as a welfare project. This BRAC is much more political than previous BRAC rounds have been, keeping open unneeded facilities because the jobs are politically important.
7 posted on 08/26/2005 11:00:39 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: AzSteven
They very directly told the DOD/AF to re-evaluate possible mission and gave them until then to come up with one or multiple ones. It will take that long to plan, pack up and move the existing tenants anyway.
8 posted on 08/26/2005 11:02:51 AM PDT by CedarDave (On my way to Crawford from NM for 08/27 rally. Five years a FReeper - 08/17/00)
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To: AzSteven

Cannon offers several great supersonic training ranges. Not quite as good as Nellis AFB, but good nonetheless. There are 4 ranges within a 10 minute subsonic cruise. One of the dangerous trends in the AF is that they seem to think that they can use maritime ranges for training. That is fine for air-to-air but our pilots still need to learn how to fly in terrain.


9 posted on 08/26/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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Seems to me just about every single vote there are two recusals. Just what is that all about.

Is it the same two every time?

I don't get it!

10 posted on 08/26/2005 11:06:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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A lot of times comission members will recuse themselves if they have some specific connection to the facility or the location being discussed. I think the female former General recused herself on some of the San Antonio-area votes yesterday becuase that is near where she lives now.


11 posted on 08/26/2005 11:07:50 AM PDT by AzSteven
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Yes, I was uncomfortable with that process; it certainly wasn't clean. From what I gather happened earlier, the votes to keep it open were there, but two of the members had to recuse themselves (don't know what for). This was a hastily crafted backup measure.

Governor Richardson was there and held a news conference at the lunch break. I suspect he did some arm twisting to get them to postpone making a decision until 2009. No doubt their decision was influenced by him.

Caller on C-Span -- enlisted man says CAFB was the worst assignment, rural and nothing to do.

Second caller can't believe they voted to keep open but no mission as of now.


12 posted on 08/26/2005 11:09:31 AM PDT by CedarDave (On my way to Crawford from NM for 08/27 rally. Five years a FReeper - 08/17/00)
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"This BRAC is much more political than previous BRAC rounds ..."

That's my impression as well. This time, it seems that explicit attention has been given to the local economic (and, by extension, political) impact of a particular closing, which I thought was beyond the mandate of the BRAC process.


13 posted on 08/26/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: CedarDave
Link up here:

http://www.abqjournal.com/weblogs/beltway.htm

Cannon Air Force Base will remain open - at least for the next five years.

The BRAC Commission just voted 6-1 to approve a proposal offered by Commissioner Samuel Skinner that would give Cannon five more years to find a viable military mission.

Gov. Bill Richardson, who has been at the BRAC hearings for the past two days, boarded a plane for New Mexico an hour ago (about 11:00 A.M. MST). He called the five-year extension a "partial victory."

"I'm encouraged by the commission's action today," Richardson told reporters.

I'm still trying to ascertain all the details and implications of the vote, but it appears under Skinner's plan, Cannon would lose its F-16 fighter jets, but would remain as an open, working Air Force Base until 2010. If the Pentagon could not find a suitable use for the base by then, it would be shuttered for good.

It looks like Richardson and the New Mexico congressional delegation have plenty more work to do where Cannon is concerned.

It seemed from listening to the commissioner's comments today that the New Mexico officials' relentless lobbying for Cannon helped spare the base, at least for now.

Almost all of the commissioners were incredibly effusive in their praise for the people of Clovis. They also seemed genuinely disturbed by the devastating economic implications of shutting the base.

"I believe the people of Clovis and Portales demonstrated to BRAC that the economic impact would be severe," Richardson said.

14 posted on 08/26/2005 11:15:44 AM PDT by CedarDave (On my way to Crawford from NM for 08/27 rally. Five years a FReeper - 08/17/00)
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Thanks. Most reassuring. It seems the commission is made up of an esteemed group and I wondered at the recusals.

While it's impressive watching on CSPIN, I wonder if airing our military capabilities on the various bases is giving too much info to our enemies.

15 posted on 08/26/2005 11:16:46 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: riverdawg

Don't forget that even tho it's mandated that it's all or nothing when it comes to acceptance by the President, ole slick willie defied that and kept a base open to please one of his cronies.


16 posted on 08/26/2005 11:18:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: CedarDave

Just realized this base is in New Mexico... perfect place to set up a large-scale detainment camp for illegal aliens.


17 posted on 08/26/2005 11:18:18 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Caller from Clovis says this leaves Clovis in limbo. Now for the next four years there will be uncertainty and planning for other base uses will be stalled. Says would have been better to axe outright.


18 posted on 08/26/2005 11:19:42 AM PDT by CedarDave (On my way to Crawford from NM for 08/27 rally. Five years a FReeper - 08/17/00)
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Worked in Clovis N.M. (just out side Cannon) for a year or so. If you love the southwest, that is a good place to be.

For someone that like green, it was hell.


19 posted on 08/26/2005 11:43:18 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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I believe the people of Clovis and Portales demonstrated to BRAC that the economic impact would be severe," Richardson said.

They are pulling 1100 jobs out of Rock Island. That is going to really mess up the Quad Cities! Heck, a good part of the river front area is already run down after International pulled out.
20 posted on 08/26/2005 11:45:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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