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Hurricane/TS Katrina Live Thread, Part II
NHC - NOAA ^ | 26 August 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 08/25/2005 11:51:53 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Katrina is emerging into the very warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico early this morning after making landfall in SE Florida, then tracking SW. Thus far, she is well ahead of schedule, leaving at least four fatalities in her wake, and well over 1 million without electricity.

The following links are self-updating.

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Buoy Data Florida

Images:


Key West Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Excellent South FL radar loop

Tampa Bay Long Range Radar Loop

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:

Florida East Coast Surf Reports Lots of great info here, including surf cams
Central Florida Hurricane Center
Hurricane City

Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: florida; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; tropical; weather
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To: mhking

Thanks for that -- got it marked.


261 posted on 08/26/2005 10:06:15 AM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: 38special

Is that from today? Man, 6ft and glassy is rare on the Gulf Coast. I know since I used to fancy myself a "surfer" growing up. I found out what a chump I was when I moved to San Diego, however.


262 posted on 08/26/2005 10:07:19 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: NautiNurse

Could the steering currents bring it west far enough to affect the Upper Texas coast or are they prety sure on the alabam/florida coast?


263 posted on 08/26/2005 10:07:32 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: All

Rush on -- says it was firing blanks up there - WBP -- 40 mph gusts .. rained stopped around 4pm up there.


264 posted on 08/26/2005 10:09:22 AM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: onyx

The wide spread is weather forecasterese for "we don't know".

This has dipped so far south that Cuba is getting hit with the outer bands. It's soon going reposition itself to where Dennis was not that long ago. I hope it doesn't follow the same path. The more it dallies on this west and southwest path, the more it will strengthen over warmer waters.

The projected paths are really expecting a pressure ridge to steer this northward or northeastly. The question is how quickly it will be influenced by that.


265 posted on 08/26/2005 10:10:59 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: eastforker
Could the steering currents bring it west far enough to affect the Upper Texas coast or are they prety sure on the alabam/florida coast?

They're pretty solid on the AL/FL coastline. The only question is how far west it'll go. I'm guessing between Pensacola and Mobile...

Posters at Hurricane City and Storm2K are both calling for AT LEAST cat 4 before landfall. The Gulf is as warm as bathwater, and unlike when Dennis came in last month, there's nothing to stir up and cool the waters before it makes landfall.

This could be really nasty, folks...

266 posted on 08/26/2005 10:11:07 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: STARWISE
says it was firing blanks up there

yesterday's news--Katrina isn't firing blanks now

267 posted on 08/26/2005 10:12:41 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse

Absolutely .. he was saying people were emailing him about how he fared ..so he was relating his experiences, and he was giving the contrast of what they got up there to the devastation in the south, and how people were caught short because they felt they were safe when the storm moved north for awhile.


268 posted on 08/26/2005 10:14:40 AM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: Strategerist

It probably doesn't deserve the bashing it gets... in fact, it was pretty dead on with the first landfall in FL. Models continue to shift west... I think you are right with a shift west at 5pm from NHC.

The weakness is very small (NO to Pensacola area)...

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm3.html

So far she just doesn't seem to want to turn north at all.


269 posted on 08/26/2005 10:16:32 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: All; Strategerist

12z model plots, definate trend west.

http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early2.png


270 posted on 08/26/2005 10:18:55 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: NautiNurse
"Have you seen this yet?"

No, I haven't. I sensed it and heard from people in the neighborhood. The Dauphin Islanders are already scrambling to secure their things down there.

I just fell into line and filled up all my gas cans just based on the rumors. I'm ready except putting up the shutters.

271 posted on 08/26/2005 10:19:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: nwctwx

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+12

It's pretty clear why the NHC thinks Katrina will move north and why Texas is in no danger.


272 posted on 08/26/2005 10:24:19 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: blam

Charge up the drill, it's coming.


273 posted on 08/26/2005 10:24:58 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: eastforker

All I have looked at shows it will NOT go to Texas but rather Florida once more as the models show. 8am Monday predicts 125 mph when it hits land according to our local news in Orlando. It is very sunny here in Central Florida right now. Seems for some reason that the sun gets unusually bright during hurricanes.


274 posted on 08/26/2005 10:25:29 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: chemicalman
"The further West it goes, the higher the gas prices are going. Bet the gas prices go to 4 bucks a gallon if it lands near Mississippi coast."

You may have something.

I filled up my truck this morning at $2.47 gal and I went back about 2-3 hrs later and it's already at $2.51 gal.

275 posted on 08/26/2005 10:26:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: sheikdetailfeather
All I have looked at shows it will NOT go to Texas but rather Florida once more as the models show.

As of right now, there isn't a single reliable tropical forecast model with a landfall east of Mississippi.

276 posted on 08/26/2005 10:29:47 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: mhking
"They're pretty solid on the AL/FL coastline. The only question is how far west it'll go. I'm guessing between Pensacola and Mobile..."

Thanks. (...just thanks!)

277 posted on 08/26/2005 10:33:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: Strategerist

Palm Beach Gardens checking in. Nothing to really report damage wise. I was at the beach earlier and the tidal surge did not reach the turtle nests and beach erosion was minimal. All very good considering it hit just 50 miles south.


278 posted on 08/26/2005 10:36:11 AM PDT by Oystir
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To: Strategerist

I agree, the forecast models have not been very good with this storm.


279 posted on 08/26/2005 10:37:25 AM PDT by Oystir
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To: Oystir

Well, they're not very reliable with weak storms or storms having land interaction; over time you'll see them become more reliable, and I suspect the solutions from today and tonight will end up pretty accurately depicting where the storm will go.


280 posted on 08/26/2005 10:38:17 AM PDT by Strategerist
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