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Muslims, rights groups attack UK deportation plans
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 26 August 2005

Posted on 08/25/2005 5:30:27 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Muslim groups and human rights organisations have criticised a new plan by the British government to crack down on Islamist extremists in the wake of the London terrorist attacks.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke announced a string of "unacceptable behaviours" and said he would use his powers to deport and exclude foreigners engaging in any of the activities listed.

Leading Muslim groups and human rights bodies called the list vague and alarming.

They also said a wide-reaching crackdown on Islamic extremism by the government in recent weeks had left deportees open to torture abroad.

Prime Minister Tony Blair's government has unveiled a series of measures and proposed laws following the July 7 suicide bombings, which left 56 people dead, and the failed attacks on July 21.

A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), the country's largest Muslim umbrella group, said it feared Mr Clarke's list lacked clarity.

Inayat Bunglawala said supporters of Nelson Mandela would have been affected by the plan if it had been in place 20 years ago when the former South African president led an armed anti-government faction.

"These rules, therefore, have the very real potential of harming those engaged in legitimate struggles against oppression and human rights abuses," said Mr Bunglawala.

"We are especially concerned that senior Islamic scholars will be barred from the UK purely on the basis of media witch-hunts orchestrated by pro-Israeli elements," he said.

London Mayor Ken Livingstone had similar fears.

"I remain concerned that some of these definitions are sufficiently vague that they could have led to Nelson Mandela, (late Palestinian leader) Yasser Arafat or anyone supporting them being banned," he said in a statement.

Mr Livingstone, however, supported a hardline stance on those who promote and support terrorist attacks such as the July 7 carnage.

The London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission said it was "alarmed" by the list and warned the grounds for deportation were tantamount to "criminalisation of thought, conscience and belief".

Human rights groups are fearful about the Government's desire to deport hardline Islamists to countries where they may face torture or even execution.

Britain is compiling bilateral accords with mainly Arab countries - Jordan was the first to sign - to deport undesirables from one nation to the other without fear of torture.

"Today's announcement fails to answer the fundamental question: will the government's deportation plans result in suspects being sent to countries with a known record of torture?" said James Welch, legal director of civil liberties and human rights watchdog Liberty.

"What has always separated us from the terrorists is that we do not torture people or send them to be tortured. That is the standard we need to maintain," he said.

Mr Clarke has insisted the accords would guarantee deportees' rights.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: civillibertarians; deportation; muslims; terrorism; tonyblair; trop; uk
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Some people just don't know what's needed to protect them...bit late to ban Arafat, though...
1 posted on 08/25/2005 5:30:28 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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Human rights groups are fearful about the Government's desire to deport hardline Islamists to countries where they may face torture or even execution.

I welcome it!

2 posted on 08/25/2005 5:31:56 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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Some people just don't know what's needed to protect them...
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Sadly, the world is full of them. Especially the United States...and they all voted for Kerry in the last election.


3 posted on 08/25/2005 5:33:06 PM PDT by EagleUSA (w)
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To: Aussie Dasher
A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), the country's largest Muslim umbrella group, said it feared Mr Clarke's list lacked clarity.

Hey raghead...How about get out!

4 posted on 08/25/2005 5:33:42 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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"They also said a wide-reaching crackdown on Islamic extremism by the government in recent weeks had left deportees open to torture abroad. "

They'd rather prefer the Londoners to die in terrorist atacks on British soil, right?


5 posted on 08/25/2005 5:35:36 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: ncountylee

I just don't want them over here. Can anyone say "Watch List"?


6 posted on 08/25/2005 5:35:37 PM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!)
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"Inayat Bunglawala said supporters of Nelson Mandela would have been affected by the plan if it had been in place 20 years ago when the former South African president led an armed anti-government faction."

Whoops! He said it...Nelson Mandela was a terrorist!


7 posted on 08/25/2005 5:37:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Being charitable, Mandela didn't blow up trains and planes in London and NY.


8 posted on 08/25/2005 5:41:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

That's because he was behind bars. Given half a chance...


9 posted on 08/25/2005 5:43:36 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Aussie Dasher

To Mr Bunglawala: too bad mate. You sympathized with the enemy against your country. Her Majesty's Government is not obligated to keep you in the country.


10 posted on 08/25/2005 5:44:56 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: Aussie Dasher
They also said a wide-reaching crackdown on Islamic extremism by the government in recent weeks had left deportees open to torture abroad.

What the heck!... its not England's problem anymore... You people.. you moozies blame everything on the Westerns, incite violence against them yet you are fully dependent on them... create your own London in Sahara...get lost!

11 posted on 08/25/2005 5:50:44 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
...just be a good little mullah and you won't have to worry about it.


???...somehow it sounded better in my head with Bugs Bunny saying it


Doogle
12 posted on 08/25/2005 5:51:17 PM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: NZerFromHK

Like John Howard said, live by our rules or leave, (what he didn't say was where they go to isn't our problem, it's theirs!)


13 posted on 08/25/2005 5:56:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Hand em their arse

Muslims, rights groups attack UK deportation plans





14 posted on 08/25/2005 6:06:26 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

LOVE IT!!! LOL!!!!


15 posted on 08/25/2005 6:07:24 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Wish we could establish some of those rules here in America.
16 posted on 08/25/2005 6:15:38 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: Aussie Dasher

Just don't deport them, deport them to somewhere where they can't come back. I know of a great place near Guantanamo Cuba that I would recommend.


17 posted on 08/25/2005 6:27:20 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Deport, detain, and if necessary, defenestrate..


18 posted on 08/25/2005 6:29:08 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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"Wish we could establish some of those rules here in America."

Methinks you will. Think of Britain and Australia as testing the water, setting the example. Many muslims in Australia will leave of their own accord...the clerics are terrified their followers will become westernized...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388

(snip)

"The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that of fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim lan d whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers..."

By Br. Amir Abdullah

Be patient.After the elections in Iraq in January (fingers crossed) your Admin will deal with the enemy within.




19 posted on 08/25/2005 6:40:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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Purple fingers crossed, deal with what? The lefty nutbags or the border? I'll take one of the two.( your backyard pisses me off, I have concrete)
20 posted on 08/25/2005 7:58:15 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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