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Senate to Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Fox News ^ | August 25, 2005 | Catherine Herridge, Molly Hooper and Liza Porteus

Posted on 08/25/2005 10:05:04 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

Captain's Quarters has an Update:
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
August 25, 2005
Able Danger: Congress Takes Charge (Update)
Senator Arlen Specter has announced that the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold hearings on the revelations surrounding Able Danger and plans to cover wider-ranging issues on intelligence and information sharing:

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., plans to hold a hearing on the "Able Danger" allegations and the larger issue of information-sharing between the Pentagon and the FBI, FOX News has confirmed. ...
One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a priority of the committee's probe, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.


Not only is this news overdue, the use of the Judiciary Committee seems rather extraordinary. Issues surrounding intelligence and military matters would normally get hearings before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence or the Armed Services Committee, not Judiciary. It makes some sense in this case, as the issue of coordination with law enforcement prior to 9/11 will undoubtedly -- and finally -- come back to the actions of the Clinton Administration and the Department of Justice in 1995 to make that coordination much more difficult.

Curt Weldon says that he has five people connected to the Able Danger project willing to testify under oath about data-mining, the identification of Atta, and their efforts to pass the information to the FBI. If Weldon delivers and the testimony remains consistent with what we have already heard, the 9/11 Commission will find itself in full retreat, its findings discredited and its members marginalized. But it won't just be them with questions to answer, nor the Clinton Administration; the Bush administration will also come back under scrutiny, especially in the Pentagon, which has yet to make any definitive statement regarding Able Danger.

These hearings should take place in full public view, with only the testimony regarding specific methodology taking place in closed session. Four years after the worst attacks on American soil since the Civil War, we deserve answers as to all of the parties behind those attacks, how we failed to prevent them, and now how we failed to investigate the terrorist attacks properly the first time around. Specter's hearings provide a good start for Congress. We need to make sure they also finish the job right this time.

UPDATE: I understand everyone's reservations about Senator Specter, but Kathryn Jean Lopez at the Corner has this memo which makes it sound like Specter takes this seriously. It also has more information about his efforts to involve the FBI regarding Atta and the terrorist cell before 9/11:

Honorable Robert Mueller Director Federal Bureau of Investigation 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D. C. 20535-0001
Dear Director Mueller,

It has been reported in the news media and directly to my staff that Army Lt. Colonel Anthony Shaffer was the operations officer for a secret military program referred to as Able Danger. The mission of Able Danger was to use a sophisticated data mining program in conjunction with more traditional military intelligence methods to identify and track al Qaida terrorists oversees.

In connection with this mission, Shaffer reports that he and his associates discovered the names and U.S. locations of three of the four 9-11 pilots a year prior to 9-11. Because the suspected al Qaida terrorists were located in the U.S., Shaffer reports that he made repeated requests of Defense Intelligence Agency (“DIA”) officials to schedule a meeting with FBI officials in order to present this intelligence to the FBI for further investigation. Shaffer further contacted FBI agent Xanthig Mangum and asked her to schedule such a meeting within FBI. Shaffer states that he made this request both verbally and by email to Agent Mangum. Shaffer claims that the DIA decided not to share this information with the FBI on the advice of legal counsel and that certain meetings that had been scheduled on this issue were cancelled as a result.

This is an official request that your office provide to the Judiciary Committee all information and documents it has in connection with Able Danger, Lt. Colonel Anthony Shaffer, Captain Scott Phillipot or any other persons having any connections with Project Able Danger, including, but not limited to, email communication, notes, phone message slips, memos or any other supporting documentation.

I would appreciate it if you would provide Agent Mangum for an interview with my staff at your earliest convenience. Also, please provide information concerning any and all requests made to the FBI by any other entity, agency, branch or commission in connection with Agent Mangum, Lt Colonel Shaffer, Project Able Danger or any related matters, including, but not limited to, requests for interviews or documents.

Thank you for your attention to this important question about cross agency information sharing.

Sincerely,

Arlen Specter


If the Able Danger team made contact with the FBI and the FBI refused the meeting, the explanation for that refusal should make for interesting viewing on C-SPAN 2.

Posted by Captain Ed at 01:00 PM |


41 posted on 08/25/2005 2:15:54 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: Bigun
A right wing plot to discredit the honorable 9/11 commission, of course!
42 posted on 08/25/2005 4:24:54 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: ken5050

"Graham...here's his chance for BIG TIME redemption"

My guess is that Sen Graham loves Sen. Sphincter


43 posted on 08/25/2005 4:35:52 PM PDT by nadlo
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To: Truth29
The speaker of the House has green lighted hearings on this matter. The rest of the relevant committees in the Senate will have hearings as well. Hillary sits on the Armed Services Committee....oh what fun that will be. :-)


JEDI
44 posted on 08/25/2005 5:12:12 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Dat Mon

DatMon, you are so right about Pat Roberts.
He's the one that should have this.

Specter needs to work on getting as many of Bush's nominees out of committee, not involved in this investigation.

The more time he and his committee spends on this, the less time to get Buh's nominee's out.
Turn it over to Pat Roberts and The Inteligence Committee.


45 posted on 08/25/2005 6:44:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: jimbo123

When you look at the 'Rats on this committee -- Kennedy, Biden, Schroomer, Leahy, etc. -- it is impossible to believe that this is the right place for a serious investigation. I'd really like to see Rep. Hunter and Rep. Weldon grab hold of this in the House Armed Services Committee .... or the Homeland Security Committee in the House would also be a good venue for hearings and investigation. Since Weldon is Vice-Chair of both committees one has to hope that he has something like this in mind, and that the past couple of weeks have just been a warm-up to get the matter into public consciousness (of course, the LSM is doing its best to ignore the subject).

http://armedservices.house.gov/about/members.html

http://hsc.house.gov/files/Membership.pdf

I sure hope the House won't let Arlen Spectre and his favorite 'Rats take over on this -- that would just continue the cover-up!


46 posted on 08/25/2005 6:48:50 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: WoodstockCat

"Ok, who is on the Judiciary Committee from the Republican side that we can count on calling Gorelick as a witness?"

And who will call on Sandy Berger?


47 posted on 08/25/2005 6:50:42 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: Dat Mon
"No wonder Weldon is livid these days. Any investigation which does NOT include Weldon is a damn joke."

See my post above. Weldon is Vice-Chair of TWO highly relevant committees in the House, both Armed Services and Homeland Security. If he cannot pull at least one of those committees into holding serious hearings and conducting a thorough investigation then something's really whacked. The Rs control the House and the committees, though minority members can do some amount of obstruction -- but I don't think they can stop determined Rs from holding committee hearings and investigations..... I sure hope that's in the cards, because I wouldn't trust Arlen Spectre and his merry band of 'Rats as far as I can spit.....
48 posted on 08/25/2005 6:52:54 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: lugsoul
I'm not the first, but I know it'll be a whitewash. Let's see - Leahy, Kennedy, Biden, Durbin, Feinstein, amone others. Without a doubt the most vicious attack dogs the democrats have in the Senate. There is no question that even now, they are scrambling their best teams of smear merchants to dig up every piece of dirt imaginable (and unimaginable) on Weldon, Weldon's family and friends, and the team members of Able Danger and their families and friends. We are probably going to witness the most ruthless and comprehensive character assassination campaign we have seen in decades, if not ever.

The Dims must have promised Specter something huge to get him to step up and take point on this one. And they know that Specter will deliver for them.

49 posted on 08/25/2005 7:10:22 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: george76

lets see where it goes.


50 posted on 08/25/2005 7:11:50 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: tennmountainman; Enchante
Look at the 'process' of selecting Specters committee as the venue.

There was no process..none that we can see.

There has been no press conferences, or public statements by the WH or any pub leader since this whole thing started. Weldon is basically out there all alone.

Why didnt Frist hold a conference with Weldon, Roberts, and Specter and announce that they were establishing committees to work specific aspects of the story?

Where is Frist...where is Roberts?

No...out of the blue..Specter starts asking for documentation from the Able Danger team.

This is a top secret INTELLIGENCE operation and it is going to be investigated initially by a bunch of lawyers with no expertise in these matters. Worse yet...is the fact that three of the lawyers are the worst of the worst partisan liberal hacks (and one is a known intelligence LEAKER)in the Senate.

Specter does sit on the Intelligence Committee as well however...so it makes more sense to utilize his 'talents' in that capacity.

I have a theory why this is going this way...but Ill hold off for now.
51 posted on 08/25/2005 9:02:22 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Enchante
Even if Weldon and Hunter can hold their hearings...the prospect of this info going to the Judiciary Committee, and the nefarious three...without any apparent precedent or process is very disturbing to me.

I hope Weldon and Hunter (with the backing of Hastert who I predict will make his Shakespearean choice and choose honor) pull out all the stops and take this wherever it needs to go.

And i mean exactly that. Let the chips fall where they may.
52 posted on 08/25/2005 9:09:34 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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Saturday, August 27, and FOXNEWS has another update on the Pentagon's position. This Pentagon Spokesman, Lawrence DiRita reminds me more and more of Clinton Pentagon spokesman, Bacon. Remember how Ken Bacon leaked personal information on Linda Tripp (to Jane Mayer), when the Clinton administration wanted to discredit her?

For some reason the Pentagon wanted Able Danger information kept from the public. For some reason The 9-ll Commission obliged. When Weldon and LTC Schaeffer came forward, the Pentagon, through DiRita, dismissed him, came close to discrediting him. DiRita was equally insulting to Phillpot when he joined Shaeffer, issueing statements that questioned their memories and their integrity.

It's totally bogus and disingenuous for DiRita to say the Pentagon wants anyone with Able Danger documentation to come foreward. DiRita knows anyone with Able Danger documentation would be admitting they stole classified documents, he knows they would be discredited and prosecuted.

Well, now there's three. Now that the third person has come foreward to verify Schaeffer and Phillpot, the Pentagon spokesman DiRita has had to adjust his message again. Today, Saturday, DiRita issued a new statement, adjusted so it's not so insulting to the three whistleblowers.

But, as luck, (or good planning) would have it, this latest Pentagon statement might be ignored by the week-end MSM, washed away with hurricane Katrina. Weldon needs to be on the Sunday Shows tomorrow.

The Saturday report on this, was on FOXNEws, a long segment by Molly Henniberg(sp).

53 posted on 08/27/2005 4:49:58 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Weldon, Shaeffer, Phillpott, now another.com)
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To: george76
"There's something very sinister going on here that really troubles me," Weldon told FOX News on Thursday, blasting the Sept. 11 commission for not taking the claims more seriously. He said some panel members were trying to smear Shaffer and Able Danger.

"What's the Sept. 11 commission got to hide?" Weldon asked. "The commission is trying to spin this because they're embarrassed about what's coming out. In two weeks with two staffers, I've uncovered more in this regard than they did with 80 staffers and $15 million of taxpayer money."

Weldon added that at least five people on the federal payroll will testify under oath about the validity of the Able Danger intelligence.

"When this is over, the Sept. 11 commission is going to have egg all over their face," he said.

Wow!!!
God bless Congressman Curt Weldon.

54 posted on 08/27/2005 4:57:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: CFC__VRWC

Weldon and Specter are old acquaintances from the same region of Pennsylvania - - Specter from Philly and Weldon from suburban Delaware County. They are both Republicans and they both often have the very same interests in mind. Specter does not want to butt heads with Weldon on this. I think he'll try to come off as "fair", but in the end he'll support Weldon. That's my opinion.

Regards,
LH


55 posted on 08/27/2005 5:13:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I don't think we can count on Spector for anything! Besides being old, sick, and a camera hog anxious for acceptance by liberals, Spector is a snake, disloyal and phoney! Weldon should count on him for nothing!

And why is Spector's committee even involved?


56 posted on 08/27/2005 5:34:24 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123
And why is Spector's committee even involved?

I suspect Weldon asked him.

57 posted on 08/27/2005 5:35:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Doesn't make sense a congressman could determine which Senate committee investigates anything. This is an intelligence, maybe military matter, not judicial.


58 posted on 08/27/2005 5:47:53 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123

The FBI's conduct is a HUGE piece of the puzzle. That's for Justice.


59 posted on 08/27/2005 5:51:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: george76
I think it's significant today, Pentagon spokesman changes his tune. The statement du jour begins....

" There is no reason to doubt the very specific recollections people have...."

And this after a week or more of the Pentagon creating doubt about Shaeffer's memory, and Phillpott's memory.

60 posted on 08/27/2005 5:56:14 PM PDT by YaYa123
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