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To: PeteB570

15 I do not understand my own actions.For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.

16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good.

17 So then it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me.

18 For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it.

19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do.

20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me.

21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand.


Romans 7:15-21

Same as it ever was....


15 posted on 08/24/2005 3:09:54 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Manitowoc Bandits!)
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To: freebilly

I told my preacher never to confuse me with a good Christian. I told the preacher that at best I was a struggling one.

I have plenty of mean and nasty vices that I will admit to but none that I inflict on others.

I figure that my religion is between me and the big guy.

I am in the minority as 99% of my church claims to be good Christians.


17 posted on 08/24/2005 3:14:49 PM PDT by PeteB570
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To: freebilly
One Scripture passagee that I try to remember every day (with mixed success):

I say then, walk in the spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the spirit: and the spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary one to another: so that you do not the things that you would. But if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects, envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is, charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity, goodness, longanimity, Mildness, faith, modesty, continency, chastity. Against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's, have crucified their flesh, with the vices and concupiscences. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
-Galatians 5: 16-25

83 posted on 08/24/2005 8:46:49 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: freebilly

However, that verse continues:

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

There is a way out if we make an effort.

Here is another verse:

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.


107 posted on 08/25/2005 9:12:09 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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