Evolution Debate creates monster [Flying Spaghetti monster, to be exact]

Lawrence Journal-World ^ | August 24, 2005 | Scott Rothschild

[Dark Knight]

Blasphemer!!!

There is only one true noodle!

The glorious Rotini!!!

DK

[wideawake]

I prefer the 'tiny angels snipping DNA with tiny gold scissors' theory. It has just as much supporting evidence as ID. In fact, I *demand* it be taught in science classes.

Again, bad jokes are no substitute for good arguments.

Your side continues to lose ground in this debate partially because of the weakness of evolutionary theory and partially because of your childish attitude.

[Physicist]

May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage, for then you shall be truly blessed.

Ramen.

[shuckmaster]

[dmz]

Help me out wide...

Why, in discussions about ID, is the a discussion about the designer off limits? It's fine, in Behe's estimation, to infer design from that which is irreducibly complex, but there is a firm refusal to discuss the nature of the designer. Why do you think that is?

I would be extremely interested in a good argument as to why we can infer design but not discuss the designer.

[wideawake]

I'm a Catholic, I don't buy into the materialist/evolutionist hypothesis, and I am under no obligation - religious or otherwise - to do so.

[cryptical]

When was Intelligent Design elevated to the level of Theory? It has no testable, falsifiable hypothesis.

Shhh, if they say it often enough and nobody corrects them it becomes the truth.

[Vaquero]

Blasphemer!!! There is only one true noodle! The glorious Rotini!!! DK I beg to differ....as Frank Costaza found out......it is the fusilli.....or as he unforturately found out Cork Screw Pasta....that is the giver of pain and to some, unfortunately, pleasure.......(fusilli...taken from 'fusil' or rifle...or rifling.....as in fusiliers......) that is the pasta diety.

[blowfish]

Hardly. When ID presents evidence worthy of something other than laughter get back to me.

[JerseyHighlander]

Smokin' da holy herb with da Pastafarians.

[Gumlegs]

May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage, for then you shall be truly blessed.

That would indeed be the best of all pastable worlds.

[Quick1]

Again, bad jokes are no substitute for good arguments.

As I see you wouldn't recognize brilliant satire if it came up and slapped you in the face, here's the only argument I need: ID is NOT science. It has no testable, falsifiable hypothesis, and should not be taught in science class, where we need our kids to learn about, you know, SCIENCE, and the scientific method.

Show me the hypothesis for ID that is testable and falsifiable, and I will be first in line to say that it should be taught in science class.

[dmz]

According to the pic on post 50, that's the pesto of all pastable worlds.

[JerseyHighlander]

Hail Ditali, hail hail hail.

[Constitution Day]

Unnngh.

[Vive ut Vivas]

Were evolution fact, as gravity is fact, there wouldn't be any debate.

Have you ever seen a graviton?

Didn't think so. If evolution is shaky, then gravity is a half-assed hypothesis.

[wideawake]

Why do you think that is?

Probably because the design (if it is proven to be a design) does not necessarily provide definitive information about the designer.

The designer is not necessarily God according to the Judaeo-Christian definition, for example.

[weegee]

Where did I say anything about creationism?

Evolution is a catch-all term for theories.

Should we usher in the theories of man made global warming and homosexuality as a birth defect into public schools? The dominant culture does not want those theories questioned either.

I don't believe that we do students any favor when scientists pretend to have all the answers. Research into the origins of life and the origins of the universe continue and will continue. Some student may be inspired by such questions to devote his/her life to such research.

The book is not closed.

[wideawake]

Read my post 29 and then get back to me.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Not to mention The Great Gnoccho!