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Oh, really, O'Reilly? Blustering Bill misstates our position
Manchester Union Leader ^ | August 24, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 08/24/2005 4:05:00 AM PDT by billorites

NEVER GET into a battle of wits with an unarmed man, goes an old saying. It's good advice, except when the unarmed man picks the fight — before an audience of millions. Then you're stuck. We found ourselves in that position on Monday.

Notorious rhetorical ruffian Bill O'Reilly of Fox News went on both his radio show and his television show on Monday and mischaracterized the editorial position of this newspaper — even after he was informed three times of our real position.

O'Reilly expressed outrage that we editorialized on Aug. 17 in favor of Gov. John Lynch's decision to study Florida's Jessica Lunsford Act. He and a paid commentator on his TV show characterized the editorial as opposing the Florida law and tougher punishments for child rapists. The editorial did neither.

Our position on the Lunsford Act was perfectly clear. It is, simply, that the attorney general should study it before anyone decides that this specific law is the one New Hampshire should adopt. O'Reilly took that position and twisted it into something wholly unrecognizable, as a baboon would demolish a lump of Play-Doh.

His and his legal expert Wendy Murphy's suggestions that we oppose getting tough on child rapists, after we told O'Reilly's staff multiple times that we were concerned the Lunsford Act might be too lenient on them, is incomprehensible and in no way supported by the editorial or the statements we gave him after he began his Cro-Magnon ravings.

Most curiously, O'Reilly apparently began reading from our statement on the air, then stopped after two words. Instead of reading our statement or the original editorial, he just called us cowards. Nice. Way to face the facts and engage in an honest debate, there, Bill.

O'Reilly has not responded to our attempts to correct the misstatements. Must be a coward.

O'Reilly is trumpeting the Lunsford Act as the only possible way to get tough on sexual predators who prey on children, which of course is nonsense. He loves to mention the act's mandatory 25-year minimum sentence for anyone convicted of child rape. While we are all for mandatory minimums for sexually abusing a child (which O'Reilly knows), the Lunsford Act, at more than 80 pages long, contains a lot more than those mandatory minimums. O'Reilly's simplistic attempt to portray us as against tough punishments for sex offenders just because we want to see everything that is in the bill is childish and contemptible. But then, one could say the same of Bill O'Reilly himself


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: children; foxnews; lunsfordact; newhampshire; oreilly; oreillyspinzone; sexualpredators; talkradio
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1 posted on 08/24/2005 4:05:00 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

Zing!


2 posted on 08/24/2005 4:09:28 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: billorites
the Lunsford Act, at more than 80 pages long

IOW, A 5th grader could read it in about an hour, even with a NH puplic school education.
3 posted on 08/24/2005 4:11:27 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Leapfrog

Blue Meanie mealy-mouthed O'Reily bashers at it again!


4 posted on 08/24/2005 4:12:48 AM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: billorites

Are you going to take any legal action against O'Reilly?


5 posted on 08/24/2005 4:13:09 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: billorites
everything that is in the bill is childish and contemptible. But then, one could say the same of Bill O'Reilly himself

Amen.

6 posted on 08/24/2005 4:13:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

I'll bet they just love the US tax code though.


7 posted on 08/24/2005 4:16:06 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: billorites
Notorious rhetorical ruffian Bill O'Reilly of Fox News went on both his radio show and his television show on Monday and mischaracterized the editorial position of this newspaper — even after he was informed three times of our real position.

Too bad you were to chicken sheet to come on his show and explain your position in person.

8 posted on 08/24/2005 4:19:13 AM PDT by Nephi (Globalism is incompatible with originalism.)
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To: billorites

Bill stated their position properly, that is why they are so pissed and now backtracking.


9 posted on 08/24/2005 4:34:15 AM PDT by NathanBookman (It's dark out.)
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To: billorites
Bill OReilly only cares abouts ratings and if a story he airs is false, well? How were the ratings?

The Union Leader is one of the best newspapers in the country. They are not "cowards", and unlike OReilly they are concerned with the truth. OReilly should come out and apologize while he's only this far behind.
10 posted on 08/24/2005 4:41:43 AM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: billorites

The Leprechaun is a pathetic ass.


11 posted on 08/24/2005 4:43:11 AM PDT by montag813
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To: NathanBookman
No he didn't. I read the editorial, and they were criticizing specifically those activists who wanted New Hampshire to adopt the same law "word for word". They were just saying that the state should look at the issue before simply doing a "me too", which is perfectly reasonable.
12 posted on 08/24/2005 4:44:40 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: jackieaxe

I agree that stats shouldn't just blindly follow each other. What's good for Florida may not be good for Michigan. It seems everytime some one is missing, it's Florida or California. I realize one child is too many but what is in this deal? After seeing Rita Crosby last night, she had a couple on who had sex with a 16 yr old. Hey 16 is the age of consent in most states, but yes he was a teacher.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 4:54:11 AM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: billorites
O'Reilly's attempts to define himself as something other than Rush Limbaugh without the talent and humor have caused him to embrace extreme communitarianism, and depart from reality. This has been clear since his infamous "Corruption of the American Child" show, where he chickened out of interviewing Howard Stern and ended up getting friccasied by Russell Simmons.

-Eric

14 posted on 08/24/2005 4:55:18 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: billorites
He [BOR] and a paid commentator on his TV show characterized...

Paid commentator? What's up with that?

15 posted on 08/24/2005 4:55:38 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: billorites

O'Reilly is looking after children and that is a good thing. He invited a representative of the newspaper to come on and defend their position, and they backed down. That is not a good thing.


16 posted on 08/24/2005 5:01:41 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: billorites

O'reilly is a pompous self-obsessed a$$. His ego is the biggest thing about him and he is wrong as often as he is correct.

The other thing I hate about him is that he talks tough but when he has a liberal celebrity on he very rarely takes them on. He usually kowtows to them.

O'Reilly is only good as a foil for DUs to attack.


17 posted on 08/24/2005 5:01:54 AM PDT by WillMalven (It don't matter where you are when "the bomb" goes off, as long as you can say "What was that?")
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To: Nephi
Too bad you were to chicken sheet to come on his show and explain your position in person

And, therein lies the elephant in the livingroom, IMHO.

18 posted on 08/24/2005 5:10:25 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: jackieaxe
Bill OReilly only cares abouts ratings and if a story he airs is false, well?

How about an example of a false story that was aired, hmm?

19 posted on 08/24/2005 5:11:47 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Puppage

Hoow about this story here where he said the Union Leader was against this bill?


20 posted on 08/24/2005 5:15:30 AM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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