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1 posted on 08/22/2005 8:50:44 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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Doesn't Vacaville translate to "Cowtown"?


2 posted on 08/22/2005 8:54:43 PM PDT by Defiant (Dar al Salaam will exist when the entire world submits to American leadership.)
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Dee Ann "Sheehan"?


3 posted on 08/22/2005 8:57:21 PM PDT by MountainDad
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"I don't support the war, but I support my sons," she said. "I simply want them to come home."

me me me me me me me me

4 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:01 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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There are 448 news stories about the Move America Forward caravan to Crawford, on Google tonight.

With this amount of news coverage, it looks like you guys in Texas may have a lot of pro-troops and pro-America visitors this weekend!

5 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:26 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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"You are ruining the morale over there," responded Greg Parkinson, a Bush supporter.

He knows what he is talking about... He just returned from Iraq for 14 days leave...

6 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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I hope they give these people what for. The must be feeling desperate. Here is an example of what a family member of our military received at their home after publicly speaking out.




If the rabid left thinks that sending mail to a families home will shut them up, they are sadly mistaken.
8 posted on 08/22/2005 9:02:31 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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Yeah, ya know Dee Ann, I'd love for my son to come home too! But I take pride in the fact that he, (along with your son's), are protecting America and your right to be the whining, sniveling, little coward you are! I'm sure your boy's would be ashamed of you,and you and your like will always sicken me!


19 posted on 08/22/2005 9:18:52 PM PDT by MountainDad
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"Death is not support"

Ah..yeh, and it is the deaths of thousands of Americans they are there fighting for you leftist idiot. YOU are the ones supporting DEATH!

45 posted on 08/22/2005 10:04:33 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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The Fresno rally tonight was SPECTACULAR!! Look for report.


47 posted on 08/22/2005 10:06:19 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Never forget Terri Schindler)
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Maybe AP has decided there really is no upside to ignoring half of America.


48 posted on 08/22/2005 10:06:42 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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"I don't support the war, but I support my sons," she said. "I simply want them to come home

How can she support her sons .. but not the work they do?

51 posted on 08/22/2005 10:23:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey Cindy ... tell us again why Our Country is not worth fighting for)
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I really hope someone has one of these signs to use during the "You don't speak for me, Cindy!" Tour:


52 posted on 08/22/2005 10:24:19 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Thanks, tgslTakoma!

Related (but funny) thread by Doctor Raoul: Guess Cindy's Not Taking News Of The Divorce That Hard

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

55 posted on 08/22/2005 10:29:53 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Federal probe begins into California National Guard unit

SACRAMENTO (AP) — U.S. military authorities began investigating whether a California National Guard unit was established to spy on U.S. citizens, as about 30 demonstrators outside Guard headquarters confronted officials backed by armed soldiers.

U.S. Army veteran Dan Elliott and other protesters marched to the headquarters of the California National Guard in Sacramento, on Wednesday. By Rich Pedroncelli, AP

59 posted on 08/22/2005 10:37:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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# Dan Elliott says:
May 23rd, 2005 at 12:13 pm

Rep. Cynthia McKinney of GA is widely regarded as the most outspokenly progressive congressional opponent of the Iraq war, but the Pelosi leadership has refused to restore her old committee assignments which she lost due to the successful campaign by AIPAC and allies to unseat her.

Why haven’t I heard anything from PDA (Progessive Democrats of America) about this outrage?

Thanks,

Dan Elliott
Sacramento CA
cuibono@rcip.com
fax 755 256 1356


60 posted on 08/22/2005 10:38:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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Dan Elliott, Sacramento
Coalition to Stop the Patriot Act*
Sacramento, California
61 posted on 08/22/2005 10:40:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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The Sacramento 9/11 Questions Meetup Group

dan elliott

* User ID: 1243974
* Member since Fri Apr 02 19:18:56 EST 2004


62 posted on 08/22/2005 10:42:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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Daniel Elliott, Sacramento Peace Action Palestine Taskforce, USA


63 posted on 08/22/2005 10:43:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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Regulated Resistance: Pt. 2 - The Gatekeepers of the So-Called Left

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 12:48 PM

BY CHARLES SHAW - Last February United for Peace and Justice, the largest representative coalition within the American "anti-war movement", emerged from their second annual Assembly with a 2005 "action plan" that effectively caged the "anti-war" debate exclusively within the Iraq conflict to achieve partisan ends on behalf of the pro-war Democratic Party and their Neoliberal corporate benefactors. Their "action plan" refused to address any of the core issues of US Foreign and Defense policy, which are the root causes of a pervading culture of war and militarism that has taken over the nation in the years since WWII.


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I've been meaning to post a comment to both this and Part I for several days now, but put it off hoping for a cpl hrs to concentrate on it, since there is so much here.

I've been fwding to everybody I know, as I did with Virginia Rodino's "report back from the Cairo Conference"; to me both are seminal documents clearly indicating the direction "the movement" needs to go.

One aspect that needs to be brought out more clearly is the relationship of UFPJ leaders Cagan and Benjamin to the "liberal zionist" wing of the US Zionist Establishment.

Likewise, the affinity of The Nation to Liberal Zionist circles (and even to the not-so-liberal FLAME organization, whose racist ads the mag was still carrying when I cancelled by sub)should get some attention.

Since it's clear the 911 caper was executed by a large team or network of very skilled, well-connected intelligence agents/agencies, to me it is only common sense to assume that Mossad, plus that org & the IDF's extensive international network of off-the-shelf assets, likely played a major role. (some idea of the capabilities of this network can be gained by reading work by Peter Dale Scott & Jane Hunter).

To me it is impossible to talk about "gatekeepers" and ignore the role of Zionism and Liberal Zionism in US politics, civil society, the labor movement, the Democratic Party, the "respectable" sector of the Civil Rights movement, and the US left/progressive movement(s) in general.

I had been active in "left" activies for a cpl decades: Vietnam war protests, supporting the Bay Area "Black Power" movement, UFWA etc, even protesting the 1982 invasion of Lebanon -- but it wasn't until I started reading the late Rabbi Elmer Berger's AJAZ journal, the work of the late Israel Shahak, Alfred Lilienthal, that I began to have a clue about Zionism.

And it wasn't until I came across Lenni Brenner's "The Iron Wall" about the founding of the Likud movement, his "Zionism in the Age of the Dictators" about Zionist clandestine activities in Europe leading up to, during, and after WWII, incl. the extensive cooperation between Zionist orgs and the Nazis -- that I started to put it together. But it wasn't until I read Lee O'Brien's "American Jewish Organizations and Israel", plus Brenner's "Jews in America Today", that I saw the whole picture.

More stuff has come out, like Chomsky's widely heralded books. But to me, at best it reinforces/elaborates/corroborates the same picture.

If you have based your analysis on Chomsky's writings, IMHO you probably are seriously misinformed about the M-E conflict, and even more about the struggle to create a countervailing power within the US Constitutional framework.

If you haven't at least read Brenner and the one small book so carefully researched and documented by Ms O'Brien, there is no way you can grasp what's going on in the determination of US foreign & military policy today.

There is more, but I have to do my chores before it starts raining again:)

Thanks again to Dr Shaw for his article -- both parts! -- and to him and Janice Mathews and all their accomplices for creating and maintaining this excellent site!!

In Struggle,

Dan Elliott
Sacramento


64 posted on 08/22/2005 10:48:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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Does MAF claim to be a "pro-Bush" caravan? Or a "Support the Troops" caravan?


83 posted on 08/23/2005 4:17:03 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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