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Televangelist calls for Chavez' death
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/22/05 | AP

Posted on 08/22/2005 8:42:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: mcg1969

Look. Pat Robertson is getting old. I don't agree with everything he has said over his lifetime, but he has a right to say whatever the heck he wants and no, he is not going to be completely aware of who he's irritating at whatever moment. If any of you have ever been with or listened to a senior citizen, you know that they no longer care what is PC and what is not. Give the guy a break.


321 posted on 08/23/2005 5:29:54 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Gone GF
So I guess Jesus would just grab an Uzi and take of business?

Only if he could pass all the background checks, pay his $200 Class III tax, and wait 6 months.

322 posted on 08/23/2005 6:51:40 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: sageb1
sageb1, now that's not a bad argument :) Cut the old fart some slack. I can hang with that, I suppose. :)
323 posted on 08/23/2005 7:29:47 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: tuckrdout

"I will tell you something. Pat is a representative of Jesus Christ."

You make a lot of good points. However, it is my opinion that Christians are not required to refrain from fighting evil. War can be just. Is political assassination as an instrument of war, then, always unjust?

In WWII we read a Japanese message that told us where Isoroku Yamamoto was going to be, and sent planes specifically to shoot him down and kill him. Is this objectionable?

The ruling class, of course, would love to see political assassination placed out of bounds, but is that in the best interests of humanity?


324 posted on 08/23/2005 7:40:40 PM PDT by dsc
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To: NormsRevenge
Rev. Jesse Jackson said they were "inciteful and wildly provocative."

Add this puke!

325 posted on 08/23/2005 8:14:20 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NormsRevenge
Fighting a pussy politically-correct war against Islam, terrorists and any other forces of evil will do us in.

Rev. Robertson realizes this and so do some on this forum.

Leni

326 posted on 08/23/2005 8:23:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: NormsRevenge

Venezuela must have some good diamond mines...


327 posted on 08/23/2005 8:39:21 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: dsc

Absolutely! I agree that some wars are just--and somethings done in war are nessesary.

My point is that Pat Robertson is a Christian pastor and leader. His job, given to him by the Lord, is to bring people to Christ. His job is the salvation of souls. Calling for the killing/murder of a person is not his job! It hurts his job. Why not instead, as a Christian leader call for prayers against Chavez; why not ask his listeners to pray that God would remove him? God keeps the man's heart beating, and nothing is too difficult for him to do.

Pat needs to stick to the job God gave him, and leave the defense of this country to those God gave that job to!


328 posted on 08/23/2005 9:12:47 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: mcg1969

The blood will be up to the horses neck when he comes back.


329 posted on 08/23/2005 9:16:19 PM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: frankjones

"Would Pope Benedict advocate an assasination?"

Who cares?


330 posted on 08/23/2005 9:36:53 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: tuckrdout

"Pat needs to stick to the job God gave him, and leave the defense of this country to those God gave that job to!"

A lot of people seem to have no problem with, "Yes, it's true, but he shouldn't have said it," situations, but I find them very difficult to cope with.


331 posted on 08/23/2005 9:41:29 PM PDT by dsc
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To: stuartcr
...."Why would God bother to create these persons"....

God sees the beginning, middle, and end, because He is timeless. He knows who has accepted Him and who rejects Him, You name is either in the Book of Life or it isn't. People are either His or they are damned.That is hard for people that live by a calendar to accept. The Bible says the saved are already in heaven with Jesus. Well, I haven't even died yet, so that is hard for us to comprehend. He knew my name from the foundation and I was His. Some will never be saved, but it is my job to preach the Gospel anyway. Some will come, others will never come. We are dead until the Holy Spirit revives us. These questions you have can be answered if you seek the Spirit's guidance. He is your teacher. I could spell it out 100 times and if you are dead to God, you will never get it. Your answers are all in the Bible, but most people don't get past the "Cliff's Notes". The Bible is as easy as you want, or as difficult as rocket science and quantum theory. All you need is faith to be saved, but most don't even have that. The whole world was condemned in the Garden, so EVERYONE was doomed to hell. Our God, Your Father, loved you so much, He gave you a way for redemption. You can take it or leave it, but He already knows your answer and has known it since before He made the Earth. That's why we call Him "God".

332 posted on 08/24/2005 1:16:57 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: sageb1
Just because Robertson IS a Christian, he can't speak his mind?

He didn't call for the assassination on an interview with Fox news, it was on the 700 club. _He_ was using his Christian broadcasting program, and the audience he has as a religious leader to call for the assassination of Chavez. By issuing his fatwa in that forum, it was Pat who mixed his violence with his Christianity. I'm certain he doesn't speak for Christians in general, but it's Pat who's trying to associate himself, and his fatwa, with Christianity by the forum he chooses.
333 posted on 08/24/2005 5:01:16 AM PDT by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: chuckles

Lots of words, but not much of an answer. Thanks anyway.


335 posted on 08/24/2005 5:39:05 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Howlin; Stellar Dendrite
Pat Robertson is completely right.

DEATH TO CHAVEZ!

DEATH TO CASTRO!

DEATH TO KHAMENEI!

DEATH TO KIM!

DEATH TO BIN LADEN!

DEATH TO SADDAM!

336 posted on 08/24/2005 7:16:10 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Death to all terrorists!)
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To: Bellflower
The blood will be up to the horses neck when he comes back.

You got that right. But until then, the promise He made to Noah still stands.

337 posted on 08/24/2005 9:32:00 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: badgerbengal

While I agree with Pat about assassination of deserving individuals, I don't really think Chavez fits into the mold of someone deserving of assassination. Chavez may be a lousy leader that can't get his country out of strikes, and that sort of thing. I haven't seen any reports that he is murdering or torturing anyone, or throwing hundreds into prison. It essentially looks like his real guilt lies in the fact, that he refuses to do what the US wants him to do.


338 posted on 08/24/2005 10:53:47 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Pat Robertson is America's version of the Ayatollah Khomeini.

This is an incrediable moronic statement showing absolutely no ability in judgement!

339 posted on 08/24/2005 11:38:00 AM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: crail
Pat who's trying to associate himself, and his fatwa

Pat and fatwa?

Oh pleassssssssssse!!.......get a grip!!!!!!!!!

340 posted on 08/24/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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