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Televangelist calls for Chavez' death
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/22/05 | AP

Posted on 08/22/2005 8:42:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Peter Libra

"The insidious hand of political correctness."

As evidenced by outrageous attacks in this thread, it is a virus that infects both parties. The feminization of America marches on.....


281 posted on 08/23/2005 11:15:32 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: .cnI redruM
Not the first time Pat Robertson's words have been used to besmirch the name of Christianity.

Which is why I wish he'd shut the heck up.

282 posted on 08/23/2005 11:17:13 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Yeah, but we're just politically correct for expecting Republicans to behave better than Howard Dean after two or three bong hits with the conspiracy nuts.


283 posted on 08/23/2005 11:19:27 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Dear Pat: A Reverend represents God, not The Godfather)
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To: .cnI redruM
We aspire to higher standards

Your point taken. True and I am glad that you agree with my figures - ten times the standard of malevolent haters.

This begger Moore is ten times worse than Pat. Could Cindy be far behind? LOL

284 posted on 08/23/2005 11:23:49 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: .cnI redruM

You are taking the comparison way too far. Churchill said Hitler should be taken out before he started a war...Pat said the same of Chavez...Churchill was roundly critized, even banned by the BBC....Churchill was proven right...I think Pat will be as well...

However, I accept that the REVEREND needs to measure his words, because he represents something larger than this concern.


285 posted on 08/23/2005 11:24:57 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
>>>>I accept that the REVEREND needs to measure his words, because he represents something larger than this concern


That's my point. He was on his own religious program. If I used even my middling and unimportant office title while advocating the assassination of a foreign leader, I would not be shocked if I were immediately invited to leave and not come back.
286 posted on 08/23/2005 11:33:14 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Dear Pat: A Reverend represents God, not The Godfather)
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To: dsc

Did he kill them?

Christ is the judge of the world, and yet he did not kill anyone. He healed the ear of a man who came to arrest him. Unlike Muhammad, he did not call on his followers to kill anyone, but instead he asked that they lay down their lives, so that others might be saved.

I will tell you something. Pat is a representative of Jesus Christ. This is the position that God put him in. He is not the government, or the President. His job is different than those people. His job is to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. Only Jesus can change the hearts of people. But, how can they believe if they do not hear? It is not Pat's job to call for the killing of anyone. He has now ruined the witness of Christians in the area! He has made it much harder for the missionaries to do the Job God gave them to do! He has endangered their lives! The Lord rebuke him.

I will tell you another thing he has done. He has ruined any plans that the government may have had in respect to Chavez! He has rallied support for Chavez all over the world and increased hatred of Americans! These words have endangered many American's lives! Very foolish statements! Very foolish.


287 posted on 08/23/2005 11:44:16 AM PDT by tuckrdout (Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the heck happened!)
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To: .cnI redruM
I just don't think a religious leader should be advocating that type of behavior from the pulpit

That's what's great about America. We can say what we want...For now.

288 posted on 08/23/2005 11:45:38 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Stone Mountain
....."Who Would Jesus Assassinate?".....

If you believe Jesus is God (aka "I and the Father are One"), Then He killed the Sodomites, Every human on the face of the Earth save 8 in the Flood, Several battles that were won by the Jews, He even killed a witch or two. In the final battles, he will kill billions by many plagues.

I honestly don't understand the notion that because we have a loving merciful God, people that say they have read about Him and believe in Him, don't understand judgment. God has used people to carry out His Plan from the beginning of time. Did David kill Goliath, or did God? If God hadn't wanted David to be "His man", then Goliath would have killed David and history would have been different. Pharaoh was God's tool just as much as Moses. Nineveh was used for God's glory even though they hated Jonah and his people.

Just as Lincoln said to one of his officers after he said he hoped God was on their side, Lincoln replied, "I hope we are on God's side". It is important to know the mind of God and follow Him, not a TV preacher or a pope. They have zero to do with God's plan. God's plan may, however, use TV preachers or popes to get His will accomplished. I wonder how many on this board would gripe if the pope called for Chavez's death? The last beloved pope said Bush was wrong to be in Iraq. Where was the outrage then?

Like I said, Robertson is just another celebrity to me, but that doesn't make what he says automatically wrong anymore than a pope automatically right.

The Bible was written to allow us to know the nature of our God. It's too bad people pick the parts they want, and skip the parts that don't match what they want. God will send literally 10's of billions to hell just because they didn't know Him. His mercy comes because He gave us a way out, not because He overlooks it.

289 posted on 08/23/2005 11:47:23 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: semaj

He hasn't come back yet.

He lived on this earth as a man from a tribe of conquered people, living in oppression. Caesar was not a gentle, loving, duly elected leader! The religious leaders, and Zealots constantly tried to get Jesus to go against the Roman government...yet he never did. He never commented on the political situation, but instead kept his speech on changing men from the inside out. As you said, this was his mission.

Pat's mission is NOT to call for the killing of a human being, but instead, his mission is to call all men to Christ, in preparation to the return of Jesus, and the judgement!


290 posted on 08/23/2005 12:01:19 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the heck happened!)
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To: tuckrdout

Still sounds a lot like a mullah.


291 posted on 08/23/2005 12:14:42 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: chuckles

Why would God bother to create these persons, knowing what they are going to do...then judge them and smite the crap out of them and punish them for eternity? Since He knew what they were going to do, why did He create them?


292 posted on 08/23/2005 12:17:26 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: All

did anyone hear rush? he was talking this and said "why didnt he include castro"

UH OH!!!!!!! better ZOT rush! /s


293 posted on 08/23/2005 12:23:13 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Black Tooth

" We can say what we want...For now."

Just wait until we have a democommie administration combined with the patriot act. Look at the gov of AZ, she used it against the guy who got his ranch taken away by illegal scum and the shyster commies in the SLPC. They labeled the guy a "terrorist"!


294 posted on 08/23/2005 12:31:34 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, Eleanor Clift (extreme leftist posing as unbiased media rep) said that Robertson and Chavez should have a duel. And then hinted that it would be a good think if NEITHER of them came out of the duel alive. The dufus moderator (John ?) just yucked.

So where's the backlash against Eleanor Clift? She's seems to be hoping that Pat Robertson dies.


295 posted on 08/23/2005 12:32:21 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan

I heard that remark by Eleanor the liberal and had the same thoughts. John Gibson looked stunned.


296 posted on 08/23/2005 12:48:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Pat Roberts is an idiot


297 posted on 08/23/2005 12:48:26 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey Cindy ... tell us again why Our Country is not worth fighting for)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Robertson is a disgrace"
And a coward I might add.
Reminds me of some of these punk gangsta rappers who talk on record about all the"niggas they killed"when in reality many of them come from middle class homes and have never seen a gun in their life.
Maybe the CIA could recruit Pat into a hit squad and he could fulfill his fantasies.


298 posted on 08/23/2005 12:49:43 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: NormsRevenge

Barney says he will do it for a six pack. Three beers now, three when the job is over and its time to relax.
299 posted on 08/23/2005 12:49:47 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I think Rush read my earlier post:

LINK.

300 posted on 08/23/2005 12:53:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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