Posted on 08/22/2005 3:25:19 PM PDT by goldstategop
RUSH: Frank in Parkville, Maryland, nice to have you on the program, sir. Welcome.
CALLER: Thank you. Rush, I'm a liberal Democrat, and I disagree with Chuck Hagel. I listened to him yesterday on the talk show, and I think he's totally wrong about pulling out or even setting timetables. Now, I didn't agree about going into Iraq. I thought it was all phony, but we're there. We "broke it," and as General Powell said, we gotta fix it. It's ours. We own it. So the only way to do it with honor is to seal the borders of Iraq with Syria and Iran, to stop the insurgents from coming from Saudi Arabia, and the only way to do that is -- all the generals have said, is -- overwhelming force.
RUSH: Well --
CALLER: And in order to do overwhelming force we have to about double the troops, and if President Bush would do what President Roosevelt did -- bite the bullet and put the draft in temporarily -- and that's the only way with a lot of men, are you going to be able to enforce the borders there and protect us in case we have to do something with China or Iran.
RUSH: Frank --
CALLER: You need a lot of troops and you're not going to get them by volunteers.
RUSH: Frank, I love you, and you know why I love you? You're an FDR Democrat, right?
CALLER: True. I'm almost 80 years old.
RUSH: Yeah, I can tell. You're one of these old-line Democrats. You understand the use of force and you understand that it works, and you understand that that's how victory is achieved. You are unique, at least in my conversations with liberal Democrats.
CALLER: Well, having said that, Rush, don't you believe, as all the former generals are saying -- once they get out they speak what I think is the truth -- that we need overwhelming force not only to seal the borders, but when we clear out the insurgents in Baghdad or Fallujah --
RUSH: Frank, I have to --
CALLER: The insurgents come right back.
RUSH: However you would define "overwhelming force" in this day and age, I think there are a lot of people in this country that wish we were using more. I think, in fact, to the extent that Bush's numbers on -- his approval numbers on -- the conduct of war in Iraq are down, I think it's not because of the Sheehan-type protests out there. I think it's because of there are a lot of people like you that are fed up. You don't think we are using our full potential, our full arsenal to just shut it down. It's like, "Okay, we've got some terrorist camps in Syria? Is that where they're coming from? Fine. Let's bomb them. We've got precision weapons that can hit them. Why not use them?" There are a lot of people with this kind of attitude. I'm glad you called, Frank. I love you.
Rush politely listened, and then congratulated him for understanding and backing the need for force.
The caller mentioned the draft twice. Given that the caller was in his 80's, I think Rush handled it just right when he focused on the things they agreed on, and ignored the part about the draft. I think it would have been different if the caller had been younger.
To bad Miller fell for this trap. Note only the Democrats what the draft as a political weapon to insure we lose the war in Iraq.
That's why Bush need to openly tell the public,that on such and such date,terrorists were trying to
These days winning wars comes second to making sure they're fought in a politically correct manner. We need to quit trying "pacification" - it didn't work in VietNam and it won't work in Iraq. Brute force is all they understand, so let's give it to them!
Huh? It wasn't Zell Miller on the phone, if that's what you are thinking. I don't remember the callers name, but it definately wasn't Zell.
Sorry, I misunderstood your previous post.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I'm for the draft and service to our country.
American started down when the draft went away.
The military service made men out of a lot of hellions.
Check out 3 above.
FYI..MIller was on Fox today..he al but flat-out said that Hagel was an idiot...
Very true.
The problem with the draft is that it has become about a 98% political issue. There is no way a Republican could institute a draft without the Rats raising hell for the next decade. The Republicans would pay a big price.
The draft was also a key reason why the Rats were able to defeat the Military in Vietnam.
It could be argued the draft cost 2 million Cambodians their lives.
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