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Intruder killed by resident of home (TX)
Montgomery County Courier ^ | 08/21/2005

Posted on 08/21/2005 8:38:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

A home invasion on Friday night left one man dead and police trying to determine his identity. It was around 1 a.m. when the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office received a call regarding a shooting in the 14200 block of Wildwood Drive in the Lake Wildwood subdivision.

According to Lt. Darrel Conn, with the MCSO detectives division, officers arrived to find a Hispanic male lying in the yard dead from an apparent gunshot wound.

Conn said the home is owned by an elderly man and his wife, who were home when the dead man allegedly decided to walk in. He said the homeowner told officers he was awake playing video games when an unknown male holding a beer bottle walked into the home through the front door. He is described as a Hispanic male, between 30 and 35.

The homeowner confronted the man and told him to get out of his house. Conn says the intruder went outside, but remained on the premises and went to the back yard. He says the homeowner then retrieved a revolver from inside the house before going outside to look around his property. When the elderly man discovered the intruder in the backyard, a struggle ensued and the intruder was shot at least once in the chest.

Conn says the dead man had only one piece of identification on his person, which does not appear to be his. There was no immediate way of determining his identity. The homeowner will not face charges.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
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To: skr

Or waiting for the homeowner to get distracted or go to sleep so he could enter and do what he wished.

In this case, you shoot first, ask stupid questions later.


41 posted on 08/21/2005 9:45:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Blue Jays

I don't know what I'd do in a similar situation. I'll trust his judgement, he was there. I might very well do the same thing.

Did he sleep well that night? Probably better than if he had called the police, they came racing with sirens, the man ran before they got there, and so he would have sat all night wondering.

I think there's a saying in the south "Some people just need killing". It's a good saying, and I believe it fit the situation. That's my take.


42 posted on 08/21/2005 9:48:32 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has ble<I>ssed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ya hear the joke about a Mexican who walks in on a old Texan playing Doom?


43 posted on 08/21/2005 9:53:59 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: Spktyr
Hi Spktyr-

If police response time is an hour he could have sat in his kitchen sipping mint iced tea and eating crackers until the troops arrived.

I'm the biggest RKBA proponent around, but I can't see having an elderly man actively looking for someone in his darkened backyard so that he can shoot him. The dead guy was a drunk who left the house earlier. The old man could have simply locked his doors, ensured his sidearm was loaded, and awaited police. No muss, no fuss.

~ Blue Jays ~

44 posted on 08/21/2005 9:54:10 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays
Texans don't usually sit and wait for the bad guy to come inside the house the 2nd time. Not even elderly Texans.
45 posted on 08/21/2005 9:54:27 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Mr. Mojo; BOBWADE
Illegal alien, no, err illegal immigrant, ooops, Undocumented worker probably.
46 posted on 08/21/2005 9:57:29 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))
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To: Blue Jays

Not sure I could classify this justified shooting as "unpleasantness". In fact, I find it quite pleasant that there will be no more waste of taxpayer monies to incarcerate him, feed him, clothe him, etc. Great ending as far as I am concerned. Same thing would happen here, except I don't play video games.....Mr Remington lives here for a reason, folks.


47 posted on 08/21/2005 9:57:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Blue Jays
That doesn't fly in Texas and every one here knows it, including drunk Mexicans. There was no good reason for him to be there and start a fight with an armed home owner. He was well within his rights and should sleep well tonight. This is the kind of incident that serves as a deterrent for an untold number of future contemplated crimes. Being drunk does not excuse the home invasion.
48 posted on 08/21/2005 10:02:31 PM PDT by willyd (Good Fences Make Good Neighbors)
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To: Spktyr

He had entered, and considering there were two elderly and unarmed people at that point, he could've done whatever he wanted to then and there. If you were a burglar, would you hang around a house in which the people are probably calling the police?


49 posted on 08/21/2005 10:02:35 PM PDT by skr
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To: Blue Jays

Yeah, you're going to wait 60 minutes in the slim hope that the police *might* get there while you pray the big thug in your yard doesn't do something like:

1. Steal your car.
2. Cut your phone and electricity and assault the house in the confusion.
3. Get pissed off and vent/blow your propane tank.
4. Torch your house with you in it and assault you if you try to escape.

Remember, this is a rural setting. No outside help.


50 posted on 08/21/2005 10:06:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: skr

No, but that's just me. Burglars in TX have done exactly that - then when their friend came to help them, assaulted the house, killed the inhabitants, looted the house, and left long before the cops got there.


51 posted on 08/21/2005 10:09:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Sun

I'm sure that this poor guy just took a wrong turn leaving the bar and ended up at this house he probably thought was his. Was he too drunk to forget his real ID? Since when did being drunk fly as an excuse? Why would a harmless drunk choose to fight a homeowner with a pistol? And why would a homeowner choose to shoot a harmless drunk?


52 posted on 08/21/2005 10:10:33 PM PDT by alliebaba
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To: Mr. Mojo
Gun control works!

I notice Lake Wildwood is not far from a place that has one of the best names anywhere, "Cut 'n Shoot" Texas.

53 posted on 08/21/2005 10:10:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Hi ridesthemiles-

I too would be very angered by a drunkard waltzing through my door, yet if I commanded the boozer to leave and he did...it's shaping-up to be a decent night without a gunfight.

The point that we seem to be missing here is that the victim was described as elderly while the criminal was described as being in his early-thirties. The homeowner had complete superiority by being in a fortified position (his house) with access to firearms, telephones, lights, and anything else he might have needed.

The imminent threat was over and the older man put his wife in a weak tactical position by abandoning her and going outside.

~ Blue Jays ~

54 posted on 08/21/2005 10:14:28 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Cut'n shoot is just one of the many gems in Texas.


55 posted on 08/21/2005 10:14:29 PM PDT by willyd (Good Fences Make Good Neighbors)
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To: willyd

Gunbarrel City is another treasure - and yes, they used to make that there.


56 posted on 08/21/2005 10:16:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I like stories with happy endings.

Law-abiding citizens surviving a dead intruder; I love it. I just hope the mutt's fellow hijos de las putas don't decide to seek vengeance.

57 posted on 08/21/2005 10:17:01 PM PDT by Marauder (You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
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To: Blue Jays

He left the house but not the property. That's still a threatening position - could be waiting for friends to come and reinforce him.

You do know that rural houses in TX have their utility connections exposed on the outside of the structure, right? It's stupidly easy to cut telephone lines, power, and remove some of the other "advantages" the homeowner has according to you. In the dark of a moonless Texas night, without power, without lights, without commo, and with an unknown number of assailants, you're fair game.


58 posted on 08/21/2005 10:20:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Blue Jays
There are so many things wrong with your solution it hardly warrants a response, but just consider ONE possibility; the deceased with the beer bottle walking in on what he thought would be an easy mark. Elderly couple, probably unarmed. It didn't turn out well for the perp. Maybe others will take note.

An aside, this scenario should be played out any time this situation occurs so the homeowners who pop the perps aren't left feeling like the lone ranger. They could form a support group ;^)

FGS

59 posted on 08/21/2005 10:21:14 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
I notice Lake Wildwood is not far from a place that has one of the best names anywhere, "Cut 'n Shoot" Texas.

Yup, that name's about as good as Gun Barrel City, Texas (up around Cedar Creek Lake).

60 posted on 08/21/2005 10:27:30 PM PDT by Marauder (You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
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