Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

LOS ANGELES TIMES ^ | 12-5-2001 | MANSOOR IJAZ

[TruthFactor]

President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Glad to see you're on the case, Chief Inspector.

[Fresh Wind]

However, they have skipped over this important piece of information regarding Clinton's culpability in what happened....

What do you expect? It was National Geographic who hired the notorious saddamite, Peter Arnett, to work on a documentary on Iraq. Public outrage forced them to fire him after he appeared on Iraqi state TV badmouthing the US.

[Victoria Delsoul]

I agree as well.

[nutmeg]

Also a must read Dereliction of Duty by Buzz Patterson.

Thanks. I'll check that out ASAP. (I have a long "to read" list...) ;-)

[Wolfie]

We're suckers. Party politics always wins out. We won't slam our guy, they won't slam their guy. That's how they get away with it, time and time again.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Please see my Post No. 13...


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[backhoe]

Copied & saved. and I will pass that on. Thanks.

[defconw]

For a more positive read on what President Bush has done Shadow War by Richard Miniter, will make you feel better after you get done screaming about Clinton, at least temporarily!

[Vinnie]

There is an audio tape of Clinton admitting his muffing a chance to get Bin Laden at least once.

[RedwineisJesus]

"""Um Ronald Reagan for one ..."""

Bill Clinton blew up few terrorists also ... but yes I agree, there was plenty of evidence that he had a propensity to witdraw too soon.

It just about cost him his job.

[SevenofNine]

OH RONNIE that been advertiste on History Channel already I wouldn't mind seeing that

Everybody know real reason why Clinton didn't go after Bin Laden it away from blow by blow with Monica

[Peach]

A great find, nutmeg. Thanks for finding it.

[Mia T]

;)

[Mia T]

What prior president DIDN'T ignore terrorism? But no prior president was zapped to attention by a terrorist who repeatedly declared war on America and repeatedly committed acts of wars against America. Bin Laden did both under bill clinton's "watch," beginning in the early '90s. clinton failed to understand that: a terrorist war requires only one consenting player defining bin Laden's acts of war as "crimes'' is a dangerous, anachronistic, postmodern conceit (It doesn't depend on what the meaning of the word "war" is) and amounts to surrender preemption serves a necessary, critically protective, as well as offensive function in any war on terror. The sorry endpoint of this massive, 8-year clinton blunder was, of course, 9/11 and the exponential growth of al Qaeda. for discussion, goto: WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM? Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

INTERVIEW Osama bin Laden (may 1998)   In the first part of this interview which occurred in May 1998, a little over two months before the U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama bin Laden answers questions posed to him by some of his followers at his mountaintop camp in southern Afghanistan. In the latter part of the interview, ABC reporter John Miller is asking the questions.   Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia.   After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim....   The American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will. Do you have a message for the American people? I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration.... BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE) THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE

[Mia T]

Why don't we clean house, then?

[RedwineisJesus]

"""clinton failed to understand that:

a terrorist war requires only one consenting player"""

Be it war or be it love, doesn't it always take at least two to tango?

I think so.

Bill knows this, the terrorists know this, Monica knows this.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Libloather]

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

Is that right? (This is a simple one) - Do ya think the impeached *One will ever take the blame - for ANYTHING *he caused?

[Mia T]

No. It does not 'take two to tango' for a terrorist war to be waged.

(And, as for your 'love' analogy, depending on what you mean by 'tango' it doesn't necessarily take two according to no less than clinton's own testimony under oath. (To be fair to the perjurer, he did argue that that particular form of tango was not tango.) ;)

That a terrorist war (as opposed to a war between states) can be waged unilaterally is precisely my point.

A terrorist war was being declared and waged against America throughout clinton's "watch" -- (the first battleground was the same building attacked by the same terrorists in '93) -- and clinton did nothing.

A terrorist war was being declared and waged against America throughout clinton's "watch"... and clinton surrendered.

LUCINDA FRANKS: I think you're wrong because, after about two years of -- of working on this, you know, on and off, I think the president -- that the teenage culture caused the president's behavior in the way he behaved in -- with the oral sex.

 

BILL O'REILLY: I think you're crazy, Ms. Franks, with all due respect.

Fellating Kids and clinton Degeneracy: The Revisionism Begins

 

 

"Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"

by Gail Wynand

Liberals have always had problems figuring out causation. They believe for example that because people who smoke (sometimes) have higher rates of cancer than people who don't that smoking CAUSES cancer, worse, they believe that if people get cancer it is the fault of the "tobacco companies" (i.e., caused by the manufactures of tobacco products). They further believe that the remedy for this fault is that billions of dollars in "damages" should be transferred from the wealth of stockholders in tobacco companies to a handful of plaintiffs lawyers including the First Lady's relatives and others closely associated with the Democratic party. And they believe, apparently, that if young people are now experimenting with sex at early ages and with more profoundly explicit practices than in past years, and that if the President of the United States decides to enroll a young intern in rendition of such services to his middle aged libido resultantly staining both her dress and America's reputation, that a spontaneous wave of teenage sex experimentation, sucked (sorry) the poor middle aged chief executive into its vortex.

Deducing causation in most events takes deliberate, focused, thought, insight, and a disciplined intelligence that doesnt skip foundational indoctrination (aka actually studying in school). Causation of the diseases associated with cancer is highly complex and to a large degree still unknown. That smoking is probably not healthy for you is well known. That a middle aged chief executive, Yale Law School graduate, former professor of Constitutional Law and State Attorney General should be responsible and accountable for his own actions including HIS perjury and obstruction of justice would seem axiomatic to all but a liberal who has the capacity to adopt causationally convenient theories based solely on tangential proximity to the event under examination rather than through any rational analysis of the importance or significance of the asserted cause to the event. Thus, "guns" are used in some murders therefore, to a liberal all "guns" should be either banned or kept in locked safes with trigger locks so as to disarm the law abiding public and eviscerate their legally recognized right to effective self defense.

Quite simply, one has to be pretty stupid or very corrupt or both to be a liberal, at least and for sure to be a Clinton supporter. But it is worse than that, one also has to deny the importance of human consciousness and free will. That is, a Clinton defending liberal apparently believes that childhood psychic trauma, teenage sex trends (remarkably and largely only rampant among the social classes targeted by liberals for social intervention for the past 40 years) and the power of "addiction" which used to be considered merely "habituation" in more stalwart times, are more significant than free will in determining human conduct.

Clearly someone should notify America's founders that they have erred... men are not deserving of self-government, because clearly self-government is nothing more than the aggregation of all our psychic traumas and libidinal confusions.. and look where that has gotten us...one Clinton leaving the white house and one aiming for the US Senate for the State of New York... perhaps the liberals ARE onto something? But no, study the last two Clinton elections carefully... this most shameless and shameful American President is the product of plurality (less than majority) votes obtained through the gile and intrigue of an elitist cabal of intellectually impaired and ethically corrupt media manipulators aligned in effect with the electoral tampering of one man, H. Ross Perot, who although he occasionally gave a good speech was still intelligent enough to know his only role was to twice deny the conservative majority of American voters a first choice for President. And now even as Evita determinedly grasps for the Security Power and Influence of the Senate seat, one sees in her early campaigning the overriding awareness that her only hope is the sowing of confusion and ignorance... the demonization of a long time public servant whose accomplishments are towering, the pandering to the lowest and most depraved and corrupt antisocial organizations and figures (no not the mob, the teachers unions and Mr. Sharpton). Arm in arm this body of liberal enthusiasts march forth to assure that America continues to be contaminated and disabled by their control of government into the 21st century... arrogantly and in complete disregard of truth, rationality, or the notion of liberty... they pound at the very gates of freedom, threatening to burn (redefine to mean the opposite of what they say) the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Gettysburg Address and replace them with their own Orwellian Banners of "community" "children" "education" "fairness" and all the other focus group tested liberal-illogicisms. But the translation exists and when the alien identifying sunglasses are donned all of their slogans can be seen to read "Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"

 

For discussion:
For the children?
the clintons ARE pornography downloads

[DM1]

"Bill Clinton blew up few terrorists also "
refresh my memory on that one unless you mean that rocket attack on Afghanistan i do not remember him chasing anyone except Elian Gonzales and the Koresh bunch