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Convicted U.S. felon's 'Cures' tops book charts
Reuters ^ | 8/21/05 | Claudia Parsons

Posted on 08/21/2005 11:28:09 AM PDT by wagglebee

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It would seem to me that if he had a natural cure for cancer, he would be able to produce a person who had been cured.
1 posted on 08/21/2005 11:28:09 AM PDT by wagglebee
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Okay, this guy might be a phony, but have you ever noticed that people who have cancer typically get most of the really bad symptoms after they start chemotherapy?


2 posted on 08/21/2005 11:32:39 AM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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"It would seem to me that if he had a natural cure for cancer, he would be able to produce a person who had been cured."

Logically, they all died.

3 posted on 08/21/2005 11:33:11 AM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: wagglebee
Hope he's locked up again. Soon.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 11:35:16 AM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: wagglebee

http://www.quackwatch.org/

is a great site to check phony health, medical and vitamin claims.


5 posted on 08/21/2005 11:36:20 AM PDT by garyhope
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It would seem to me that if he had a natural cure for cancer, he would be able to produce a person who had been cured.

A sound and rational response to such claims.

Since being diagnosed with cancer, I've been approached by all kinds of kind-hearted and well-meaning people who have "alternative" treatments for my condition. God bless 'em all...they really do mean well.

After having endured standard medicine's treatments, I simply don't have the desire to add even more stuff to my daily regimen. I already have to take enough daily pills and daily injections to keep me busy.

I just don't want to go the Steve McQueen route and subject myself to still more ridiculous treatments that have no record of working. If God wants to take me home that badly, who am I to argue?

6 posted on 08/21/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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I have no thoughts on this book or Kevin Trudeau but I have thought about drug companies and disease cures.
It is not a stretch to believe it is not in the Pharmaceutical companies best interest for people with chronic disease to get well and no longer need their product.
I think the Pharmaceutical and Insurance industries are probably the most corrupt.
7 posted on 08/21/2005 11:39:06 AM PDT by msnimje
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Just take a look on Amazon at readers opinions (Rate This Book).

The book tells you nothing. It refers you to a web site that is, of course, subsciption oriented.

Trudeau is not a quack, he is a con man.

8 posted on 08/21/2005 11:39:18 AM PDT by technomage
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Trudeau, 42, was jailed for 22 months in the early 1990s over credit card fraud -- something Trudeau dismissed as nothing more than a youthful indiscretion.

Youthful in early 1990's? 42 less 15 is 27 years old. If you don't know right from wrong by age 27, you never will.

9 posted on 08/21/2005 11:40:02 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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"This book is exploiting and misleading people who are searching for cures to serious illnesses," said Teresa Santiago, who chairs the board. "From cover to cover, this book is a fraud," she said, adding that a doctor quoted apparently endorsing the book died in 2001.

Oh, this is a concern of the government? Shall we talk about the fraud called AIDS and its obvious cure?

10 posted on 08/21/2005 11:40:32 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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Logic and Reason have been so repudiated by the MSM, that this kind of fraud has a large number of ignorant gullible people to victimize.

How often have we seen the idea that capitalists are evil people who only steal from others promoted by the MSM?

Often enough to give the gullible a reason to believe this fraud.

I have no idea how many will die as a result of the nonsense promoted by this person.

11 posted on 08/21/2005 11:41:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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have you ever noticed that people who have cancer typically get most of the really bad symptoms after they start chemotherapy?

That is because chemotherapy is the practice of methodically poisoning the body in order to kill the weakest cells. Since the cancer cells are typically the least hardy of all cells in the body, the goal is to sicken all, but kill the weakest.

The main difference is that chemotherapy has the decency to admit that it's poison. A lot of "all natural remedies" don't. (Remember, folks: just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good for you! Cyanide is all-natural too, y'know.)

Next question?

12 posted on 08/21/2005 11:42:24 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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Doesn't "Dr. Phil" also have a shady past? There are a lot of con men making a lot of money off of a lot of desperate people.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 11:42:51 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: thoughtomator
Shall we talk about the fraud called AIDS and its obvious cure?

AIDS has no cure. Nothing viral has a cure. Not even influenza.

14 posted on 08/21/2005 11:43:58 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
If you don't know right from wrong by age 27, you never will.

Ah...you forget: the Leftist media thinks that people should still be living with their parents at that age! (And yeah, they think that's Bush's fault too.)

15 posted on 08/21/2005 11:45:26 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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Okay, this guy might be a phony, but have you ever noticed that people who have cancer typically get most of the really bad symptoms after they start chemotherapy?

I was diagnoses with terminal lung cancer in august of 1997. I was given 4 months to live... About the same as they gave Peter Jennings.

I went to several medical institutions in Ohio. The Cleveland Clinic, James Cancer Center and one other oncologist. They all said the same thing. With treatment I had an 8 percent chance of living a year and a 33 percent chance of living 4 months.

I finally visited the cancer treatment center in my home town hospital. The oncologist told me of an experimental treatment for terminal patients. It had a 15 percent chance of success.

The experimental chemo would kill the cancer... The only problem was it had an 85 percent chance of killing me first. I had a 15 percent chance of surviving the side effects of the chemo. If I did survive the treatment, then my cancer would likely be killed.

I took the shot. I went through 4 months of chemo and 2 months of radiation. It nearly killed me... and it did kill the cancer.

I have now been cancer free since February of 1998. I will soon be free of cancer for seven and a half years.

At the 5 year survivial point the oncologist turned me back over to my family doctor. He said I was very lucky to be alive. Had I come in just 2 weeks sooner the experimental chemo would not have been available.. and I would have died in 4 months.

Does Chemo make you worse? It certalnly does. Nothing had been found that will kill cancer that won't severly damage other cells in your body. There are just two prospects for lung cancer.... do nothing and die, or take chemo and hope that the chemo kills the cancer before it kills you.

16 posted on 08/21/2005 11:47:02 AM PDT by Common Tator
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Not for the patient maybe, but any society that wants to cure its AIDS epidemic can do so. All it takes is the political will.


17 posted on 08/21/2005 11:47:21 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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"I'm doing this virtually as a nonprofit," he said. "I'm not doing this for the money. It's a passion." Yeal, right, I was born at night, just not last night.
18 posted on 08/21/2005 11:51:27 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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I remember seeing his infomercial a while ago and thinking 'wasn't he selling something else a few years ago'.


19 posted on 08/21/2005 11:53:30 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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"I have no idea how many will die as a result of the nonsense promoted by this person."

For a real answer, former magician James Randi has a very active foundation set up.

Randi was Uri Geller's worst nightmare, exposing him on Johnny Carson way back. (He turns many off for being an athiest, but that's not his main drive at all.)

20 posted on 08/21/2005 11:54:22 AM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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