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To: Lexinom

If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion.


3 posted on 08/20/2005 12:17:17 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: peyton randolph

ouch ! good one...now what ACLU ?
In the courts eyes, nothing means something !
beam me up scottie.


4 posted on 08/20/2005 12:24:05 AM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: peyton randolph
unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion

Yes, by jove I think you've hit the nail on the head...

5 posted on 08/20/2005 12:25:47 AM PDT by konaice
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Talk about your oxymorons.

IF Atheism is a religion;
Then dying of thirst is a big drink of water.
And starvation is three big meals a day.


6 posted on 08/20/2005 12:26:06 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: peyton randolph
If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion.

Excellent point....

11 posted on 08/20/2005 12:57:10 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity)
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It is "Respecting an Establishment of Religion"..

That is, if these perverts in black dresses that
are calling themselves the 7th Court Appeals,
weren't completely devoid of morality and intellect.


13 posted on 08/20/2005 12:58:54 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: peyton randolph
Bingo, hole-in-one, bullseye. That is exactly the point I've been trying to make for years. Secular Humanism even has its own creeds (Humanist Manifesto I, Humanist Manifesto II).
17 posted on 08/20/2005 1:18:19 AM PDT by Lexinom
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"...unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion."

Yes, and using the same logic, environmentalism is also a religion, the endorsement of which is also unconstitutional.

21 posted on 08/20/2005 1:28:09 AM PDT by nightdriver
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I think so. That is the religion they are trying to promote.


36 posted on 08/20/2005 2:10:38 AM PDT by mlc9852
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I've thought that before.

The government should get out of the religion business altogether. Just let free speech flow and everything will work out.

It's a lot easier NOT to have to deal with all of those court cases and all of those twists and turns. Just let everyone speak out full and free and the government will save a lot of time and energy.

If folks don't realize there are lots of different religions out there, then simply tell them to grow up. If they don't realize there are some religions with more members than others, then tell them to grow up.


50 posted on 08/20/2005 2:39:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: peyton randolph
"If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion."

In a heartbeat ACLU and allied groups will claim Agnosticism rather than Atheism as their guiding principle in these matters. Agnosticism can never be defined as a religion because, unlike Atheism, it has no beliefs.

65 posted on 08/20/2005 4:05:22 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: peyton randolph
does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion.

If I understand the doctrine of strict construction / scrutiny properly, yes (FReeper lawyers jump in here and correct my judicial ignorance - you were going to anyway).

67 posted on 08/20/2005 4:37:28 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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Spot on target. You have hit th ebulls eye.One Problem those legislating form the bench--that despotic branch
who think they alone can say what the Constitution and Law
is --will simply ignore the obvious and cite some Marxist
Communist foreign precedent to declare such astute observation unconstitutional and a threat to their survival.Beware the cattle trucks full of men in black
nija suits and hellicopters flying close by your "compound"/


75 posted on 08/20/2005 5:33:06 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: peyton randolph

"If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion."

Here I was just about to get in your face mad about this issue and you go and make me have such an EVIL grin.


81 posted on 08/20/2005 5:53:59 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: peyton randolph
If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion.

Only if they allow atheist symbols to remain in place, while removing others.

88 posted on 08/20/2005 7:22:58 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion

BINGO!

93 posted on 08/20/2005 8:06:07 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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It also means that belief in evolution would also be a form of 'religion'; no different than belief in creation.


110 posted on 08/20/2005 9:51:38 AM PDT by connectthedots
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absolutely it does mean exactly that...where the Supreme Court and lesser courts are favoring the religion of atheism over other religions.


123 posted on 08/20/2005 10:48:11 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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.....thus, all public displays of Atheism are hereby banned.


127 posted on 08/20/2005 11:08:36 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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It's more likely that we'll have to endure huge "There is no God" signs in that famous public square, if we keep going the way we are.


145 posted on 08/20/2005 11:46:31 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: peyton randolph
If athiesm is a religion, does the banning of Christian and Jewish symbols (such as Nativity displays, the Menorah, and the Ten Commandments) from public places constitute an unconstitutional endorsement by the State of athiesm as a religion.

I would think so.

165 posted on 08/20/2005 1:49:58 PM PDT by Tribune7
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