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What Cindy Sheehan Really Wants - Now imagine if she gets it. (Dem posters cryin over this article)
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| Christopher Hitchens
Posted on 08/19/2005 2:47:13 PM PDT by summer
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I haven't even read this article yet, but on Dem forums they're all upset about this article being in Slate (I-thought-Slate-Was-Libera).
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:47:15 PM PDT
by
summer
To: All
On that last word I meant to type: Liberal
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:48:01 PM PDT
by
summer
To: All
More from article:
This week, before family matters called her away from Crawford, she mutated her demandthat the president lower himself into that pit and join her down thereinto the shameless request that he join her for Friday prayers. The nerve! We all know how much the MoveOn.org forces believe in the power of prayer, and in the president's sincere religious convictions (their contempt for this is the only thing on which I agree with them). But, hey, try anything once for a tear-jerker or a bit of moral blackmailwhat Maureen Dowd has so laughably called "absolute moral authority."...
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:49:48 PM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
a weird confection of pacifism with paranoid anti-Zionism Um... "anti-Zionism", which is really just a euphemism for anti-Semitism, has been at the core of the left-wing "pacifist" (another euphemism, which translates into English roughly as "surrenderist") movement for quite some time now.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:49:57 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
To: summer
The term "LaRouche-like" is in the article.
Bullseye.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:50:11 PM PDT
by
George Smiley
(This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
To: summer
Slate is liberal. But they are smart to distance themselves from this lunatic.
To: summer
This is a brilliant article and deserves the widest distribution.
Hitchens is a lefty who is firmly behind the war.
To: All
To end of article:
What do these people imagine that they are demanding? Would they like a referendum to be held, among the relatives of the fallen in Iraq, to determine the future conduct of the war? I think I can promise them that they would heavily lose such a vote. But what if the right wing were also to demand such a vote and the "absolute moral authority" that supposedly goes with it?
One of three things could then happen. The ultra-right anti-Zionist forces of David Duke and Patrick J. Buchanan, both of whom approvingly speak of Ms. Sheehan's popular groundswell, would still lose the vote. So would the media fools who semi-automatically identify Sheehan and her LaRouche-like drivel with the "left" or "progressive" forces. This would leave us with a random pseudo-majority, made up of veterans and their relatives. Who wants this to be the group that decides? One might as well live in a populist, jingoist banana republic. Never mind the Constitution, or even the War Powers Act. Only victims and martyrs can decide! Get ready to gather under the balcony of a leader who speaks rotundly of such glory.
Then there is the question of humanitarian or pacifist emotion. Some have perhaps been drawn to "Camp Casey" out of reverence for life. Their demand, however, is an immediate coalition withdrawal from Iraq. Have they seriously asked themselves how humane the consequences of that would be? The news of a pullout would put a wolfish grin on the faces of the "al-Qaida in Mesopotamia" brigade, as Mr. Zarqawi's force has named itself in order to resolve all doubt. Every effort would be made to detonate every available car-bomb and mine, so as to claim the withdrawal of coalition forces as a military victory for jihad. I can quite understand Ms. Sheehan's misery at the thought of her son being killed on some desolate road. But will she be on hand to console the parents whose sons are shot in the back while being ordered to surrender and withdraw?
I hope I don't insult the intelligent readers of this magazine if I point out what the consequences of such a capitulation would be for the people of Iraq. Paint your own mental picture of a country that was already almost beyond rescue in 2003, as it is handed back to an alliance of homicidal Baathists and Bin-Ladenists. Comfort yourself, if that's the way you think, with the idea that such people are only nasty because Bush made them so. Intone the Sheehan mantrarepeated this very weekthat terrorism is no problem because after all Bush is the leading terrorist in the world. See if that cheers you up. Try it on your friends. Live with it, if you are ready to live with the consequences of what you desire.
This is an argument, about a real war, that deserves moral seriousness on all sides. Flippancy and light-mindedness have no place. Cindy Sheehan's cheerleader Michael Moore has compared the "insurgents" in Iraq to the American minutemen and Founding Fathers. Do I taunt him for not volunteering to fight himself in such a noble cause? Of course I do not. That would be a low and sly blow. Do I say that he is spouting fascistic nonsense? Of course I do. Is Cindy Sheehan exempt from any verdict on her wacko opinions because of her bereavement? I would say that she is not. Has she been led into a false position by eager cynics who have sacrificed nothing and who would happily surrender unconditionally to the worst enemy that currently faces civilization? That's for her to clarify. While she ponders, she should forgo prayer, stay in California, and end her protest.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:51:24 PM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
"(Dem posters cryin over this article)"
Let 'em cry, the lyin' dogs.
To: summer
Slate is liberal of course. However, Hitchens is for the war in Iraq and has written and spoken out against the Islamofascists. He is still a leftie in most other areas.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:52:35 PM PDT
by
dynachrome
("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
To: summer
Hitchens can never be pigeon-holed ... whether he writes for Slate or any other publication. The Left hate him and the Right is cautious about him.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:52:41 PM PDT
by
Lorianne
To: summer
I'm glad to see that Maureen Dowd is getting slapped around in many of these Cindy-related articles.
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:52:46 PM PDT
by
My2Cents
("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
To: summer
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:54:25 PM PDT
by
230FMJ
(...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
To: the Real fifi
This is a brilliant article and deserves the widest distribution.
I just now read it. WOW is about all I can say. (And, you're right.)
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:54:49 PM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
It would be awesome to see president Bush have a press conference w/ Sheehan, all televised, and let him point out his positions. Call her bluff, in other words. Let his people prep him, as for a debate, and counter he nonsense about him killing her son, with logic and common sense. BTW, I just learned her son died a YEAR AND A HALF AGO! I thought it was recent,...
To: summer
As crazy as she seems, she is an accurate refelection of the thinking and emoting of the Demo base.
The whole party has gone nuts.
To: summer
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:56:40 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: summer
and in the president's sincere religious convictions (their contempt for this is the only thing on which I agree with them)
They actually ADMITTED that they have contempt for Christians? Amazing!
Another delightful bit of love from the Party of Tolerance (r)
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posted on
08/19/2005 2:57:26 PM PDT
by
Zechariah_8_13
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: summer
Cindy Al-Shehanni,
has jumped the shark !
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
08/19/2005 3:00:52 PM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(Conservatives are from Earth. Liberals are from Uranus.(c))
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