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I haven't even read this article yet, but on Dem forums they're all upset about this article being in Slate (I-thought-Slate-Was-Libera).
1 posted on 08/19/2005 2:47:15 PM PDT by summer
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On that last word I meant to type: Liberal


2 posted on 08/19/2005 2:48:01 PM PDT by summer
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More from article:

This week, before family matters called her away from Crawford, she mutated her demand—that the president lower himself into that pit and join her down there—into the shameless request that he join her for Friday prayers. The nerve! We all know how much the MoveOn.org forces believe in the power of prayer, and in the president's sincere religious convictions (their contempt for this is the only thing on which I agree with them). But, hey, try anything once for a tear-jerker or a bit of moral blackmail—what Maureen Dowd has so laughably called "absolute moral authority."...
3 posted on 08/19/2005 2:49:48 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
a weird confection of pacifism with paranoid anti-Zionism

Um... "anti-Zionism", which is really just a euphemism for anti-Semitism, has been at the core of the left-wing "pacifist" (another euphemism, which translates into English roughly as "surrenderist") movement for quite some time now.

4 posted on 08/19/2005 2:49:57 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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To: summer
The term "LaRouche-like" is in the article.

Bullseye.

5 posted on 08/19/2005 2:50:11 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: summer

Slate is liberal. But they are smart to distance themselves from this lunatic.


6 posted on 08/19/2005 2:50:25 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: summer

This is a brilliant article and deserves the widest distribution.

Hitchens is a lefty who is firmly behind the war.


7 posted on 08/19/2005 2:51:23 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To end of article:

What do these people imagine that they are demanding? Would they like a referendum to be held, among the relatives of the fallen in Iraq, to determine the future conduct of the war? I think I can promise them that they would heavily lose such a vote. But what if the right wing were also to demand such a vote and the "absolute moral authority" that supposedly goes with it?

One of three things could then happen. The ultra-right anti-Zionist forces of David Duke and Patrick J. Buchanan, both of whom approvingly speak of Ms. Sheehan's popular groundswell, would still lose the vote. So would the media fools who semi-automatically identify Sheehan and her LaRouche-like drivel with the "left" or "progressive" forces. This would leave us with a random pseudo-majority, made up of veterans and their relatives. Who wants this to be the group that decides? One might as well live in a populist, jingoist banana republic. Never mind the Constitution, or even the War Powers Act. Only victims and martyrs can decide! Get ready to gather under the balcony of a leader who speaks rotundly of such glory.

Then there is the question of humanitarian or pacifist emotion. Some have perhaps been drawn to "Camp Casey" out of reverence for life. Their demand, however, is an immediate coalition withdrawal from Iraq. Have they seriously asked themselves how humane the consequences of that would be? The news of a pullout would put a wolfish grin on the faces of the "al-Qaida in Mesopotamia" brigade, as Mr. Zarqawi's force has named itself in order to resolve all doubt. Every effort would be made to detonate every available car-bomb and mine, so as to claim the withdrawal of coalition forces as a military victory for jihad. I can quite understand Ms. Sheehan's misery at the thought of her son being killed on some desolate road. But will she be on hand to console the parents whose sons are shot in the back while being ordered to surrender and withdraw?

I hope I don't insult the intelligent readers of this magazine if I point out what the consequences of such a capitulation would be for the people of Iraq. Paint your own mental picture of a country that was already almost beyond rescue in 2003, as it is handed back to an alliance of homicidal Baathists and Bin-Ladenists. Comfort yourself, if that's the way you think, with the idea that such people are only nasty because Bush made them so. Intone the Sheehan mantra—repeated this very week—that terrorism is no problem because after all Bush is the leading terrorist in the world. See if that cheers you up. Try it on your friends. Live with it, if you are ready to live with the consequences of what you desire.

This is an argument, about a real war, that deserves moral seriousness on all sides. Flippancy and light-mindedness have no place. Cindy Sheehan's cheerleader Michael Moore has compared the "insurgents" in Iraq to the American minutemen and Founding Fathers. Do I taunt him for not volunteering to fight himself in such a noble cause? Of course I do not. That would be a low and sly blow. Do I say that he is spouting fascistic nonsense? Of course I do. Is Cindy Sheehan exempt from any verdict on her wacko opinions because of her bereavement? I would say that she is not. Has she been led into a false position by eager cynics who have sacrificed nothing and who would happily surrender unconditionally to the worst enemy that currently faces civilization? That's for her to clarify. While she ponders, she should forgo prayer, stay in California, and end her protest.
8 posted on 08/19/2005 2:51:24 PM PDT by summer
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"(Dem posters cryin over this article)"

Let 'em cry, the lyin' dogs.


9 posted on 08/19/2005 2:51:45 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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Hitchens can never be pigeon-holed ... whether he writes for Slate or any other publication. The Left hate him and the Right is cautious about him.


11 posted on 08/19/2005 2:52:41 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: summer

read later


13 posted on 08/19/2005 2:54:25 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: summer

It would be awesome to see president Bush have a press conference w/ Sheehan, all televised, and let him point out his positions. Call her bluff, in other words. Let his people prep him, as for a debate, and counter he nonsense about him killing her son, with logic and common sense. BTW, I just learned her son died a YEAR AND A HALF AGO! I thought it was recent,...


15 posted on 08/19/2005 2:55:36 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle
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To: summer

As crazy as she seems, she is an accurate refelection of the thinking and emoting of the Demo base.

The whole party has gone nuts.


16 posted on 08/19/2005 2:55:58 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: summer

And now she's siding with the thug who killed her son:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1466898/posts


17 posted on 08/19/2005 2:56:40 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Cindy Al-Shehanni,

has jumped the shark !


19 posted on 08/19/2005 2:59:10 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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I can see why they're crying. The gloves came off for this one. BTT.


21 posted on 08/19/2005 3:01:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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We all know how much the MoveOn.org forces believe in the power of prayer, and in the president's sincere religious convictions (their contempt for this is the only thing on which I agree with them)

Then you have no moral grounds on which to condemn them, so kindly shut up.

26 posted on 08/19/2005 3:06:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Nachamu, nachamu, `ammi; yo'mar 'Eloqeykhem.)
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To: summer

This is delicious! :-)


30 posted on 08/19/2005 3:09:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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Here's an interesting link in the original article:

Cindy Sheehan has denied that she wrote certain parts of the March 15, 2005, letter that was e-mailed to Nightline in her name. This was the letter quoted in Slate's Aug. 15 Fighting Words column. Specifically, Sheehan claimed that her letter was doctored after the fact to include anti-Israel language. Here is the controversial passage:

Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agendas after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy … not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy.

Was the letter doctored? Or did she write the anti-Israel language in it?

In March, after participating in a Nightline town hall meeting, Cindy Sheehan wrote a letter and e-mailed it to James Morris—an anti-Zionist activist—who forwarded it at her request to Nightline Executive Producer Tom Bettag. Sheehan admits this, and Nightline spokesperson Emily Lenzner has confirmed that Bettag received Sheehan's e-mail via Morris on March 15.

On Aug. 15, Anderson Cooper asked her about the anti-Zionist statements contained in the letter, and she denied having made them. Sheehan then claimed that Morris doctored her Nightline letter. On Aug. 17, she wrote in her blog:

Another "big deal" today was the lie that I had said that Casey died for Israel. I never said that, I never wrote that. I had supposedly said it in a letter that I wrote to Ted Koppel's producer in March. I wrote the letter because I was upset at the way Ted treated me when I appeared at a Nightline Town Hall meeting in January right after the inauguration. I felt that Ted had totally disrespected me. I wrote the letter to Ted Bettag [sic] and cc'd a copy to the person who gave me Ted's [sic] address. I believe he changed the email and sent it out to capitalize on my new found notoriety by promoting his own agenda.

[Note: Sheehan misremembered when she said that she cc'd it. Nightline and Morris both confirm that she sent the letter to Morris, who forwarded it to Bettag.]

Sheehan subsequently implied, through a spokesperson at Fenton Communications, that Morris had hacked into her e-mail. Later, Fenton Communications and Sheehan backed off the hacking claim, but both maintain that the words in the letter about Israel are not her own. For his part, Morris denies having tampered with the letter and confirms that the version circulating is the same as the one she sent to him.

There is other proof that Sheehan wrote the whole letter. After she sent the letter to Morris, Sheehan also e-mailed it to several other people, including Tony Tersch, a retiree living in Thailand, and Skeeter Gallagher. Both belong to a small Internet bulletin board called Bull Yard. Tersch had become her correspondent after contacting her out of personal and political sympathy. At Gallagher's request, Tersch posted Sheehan's letter to Bull Yard on March 17. Here is the letter as it appears there. This is the version that has been circulating, and from which Slate quoted. Tersch has confirmed that he received the letter from Sheehan directly and has stated that he did not doctor the e-mail before posting it.

Unless Sheehan is the victim of an elaborate Morris-Tersch conspiracy quietly put in motion on March 17, months before she became famous, those are her words.—By Blake Wilson

32 posted on 08/19/2005 3:14:00 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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she was eventually asked about her statement that her son Casey had been killed in a war for Israel, and she denied ever having made it. So, we must now say that, as well as being a vulgar producer of her own spectacle, and an embarrassment to her family, Cindy Sheehan is at best a shifty fantasist. .............. bRATty Liberals ------ I told you Cindy was using the Clinton play book of layered lies. Throw out a bunch of lies (confuse and deflect) then run! Like little neighborhood brats who ring your doorbell and run before you can open the door.
35 posted on 08/19/2005 3:20:37 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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I guess the left doesn't want it on Slate because they are afraid their followers might read it by accident. The truth may actually cause strokes.
37 posted on 08/19/2005 3:24:02 PM PDT by BallyBill (Cheney/Rove in 08 ....drive the left to suicide.)
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