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Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight
The New York Times ^
| 08/19/05
| Andrew Pollack
Posted on 08/19/2005 9:25:31 AM PDT by RoyalsFan
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Comment #121 Removed by Moderator
To: johnb838
This judge needs to be put out of business. Anybody know the name?Read the article. The defendants settled the case.
To: Just_de_facts
Read the article again, it was a jury trial. I can almost 100% guarantee you it was a hispanic jury that found in their favor. The jurors in question are American citizens and live in the same county as where these border crossings occured.
Regardless of their race, they probably have the same issues with illegals crossing the border as anyone else in the county.
So, for them to find in favor of these illegals probably says a lot as to how extreme they considered the actions of the ranch owners.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:38:14 AM PDT
by
Modernman
("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
To: calex59
This guy better apeal this, He can't appeal, he settled the case. Also, according to the article, he is serving time in prison, having been convicted by a Texas jury of being a felon in possession of a gun.
To: Heyworth
Pistol whiping leaves marks. Big, ugly marks. Not just bruises, but cuts and broken bones.
No such marks on the illegals. But, I guess we'll just take the criminalal border invaders word for it.... right?
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:41:30 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Aggie Mama
I saw this in Fox News this morning. I couldn't believe it. Surely, this will be overturned on appeal.Doesn't anybody read the article before posting? He settled the case, he can't appeal.
To: r9etb
Gosh. I guess we don't have to wonder where the lefties could possibly get the idea that the Minute-Man thing is a haven for frustrated nazis..... And, what's frustrating, is that the bunch of "Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up" loons don't get that all they are doing is hurting the cause of immigration control.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:43:21 AM PDT
by
Modernman
("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
To: r9etb
"If he did (and I guess that's what the trial found), then illegals have just as much right to sue over bodily harm as anybody else." WTF! These cockroaches committed the crime by being on his property. No illegal scum should have the same standing in our courts if the first friggen act they commit is entering the country illegally.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:43:21 AM PDT
by
Wurlitzer
(I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
Comment #129 Removed by Moderator
To: r9etb
Do you have anything rational to say to me, or do you simply like the rainbow effect as the light from your monitor refracts through your spittle?
Good one, my snarky friend. You must be an orbitologist, knowin' about all these refractin' rainbows and whatnot. That only comes from book-learnin'!
To: RoyalsFan
Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."
I could understand a decision made against the American(s) if they broke one of our laws but in no possible justifiable way should land be give to illegal immigrants it sets bad precedence for future cases in court.
This lawyer should be disbarred and thrown in jail. Is it any wonder we think lawyers are the scum of the earth.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:47:38 AM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
To: Wurlitzer
WTF! These cockroaches committed the crime by being on his property. It doesn't matter. If you detain a trespasser on your property, you simply do not have the right to pistol-whip him.
No illegal scum should have the same standing in our courts if the first friggen act they commit is entering the country illegally.
The Constitution, and the law, protect everyone in America equally. Don't like it? Amend the Constitution.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:47:48 AM PDT
by
Modernman
("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
To: TheForceOfOne
This lawyer should be disbarred and thrown in jail. For what, exactly?
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:49:16 AM PDT
by
Modernman
("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
To: Dead Corpse
Have you noticed how the Quislings show up on every border thread?
These were the kind of demonstrators who tried to stop the Carlsbad illegal immigration forum from taking place last week, by threatening violence if it took place.
They represent the true face of the Open Borders Lobby.
This guy equates Old Glory with a Nazi Swastika.
![Image Hosted by ImageShack.us](http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9446/carlsbadrallyaug050019wt.jpg)
Neo-Communists still peddling "workers of the world unite!"
![Image Hosted by ImageShack.us](http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1695/carlsbadrallyaug050023uf.jpg)
Note the black and white Palestinian pro-terrorost jihad kefiya scarf.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:49:18 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: Bird Jenkins
Seriously now, Bird. Can you respond rationally to any of the points I've made on this thread?
For example:
What do you propose to do about the Americans who are paying the illegals to cross the border?
Do you really support the idea, as espoused by some on this thread, that it is permissible to commit crimes such as assault and murder against illegal aliens because they're "breaking the law by crossing the border?"
Well?
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:49:31 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: moehoward
Trying to Google it up, but what was Casey's original Felony for? I tracked it back to a Felony Assault with a Firearm charge, but no details.
Was this one of those Kalifornistan things that if you once looked at a gun, but then got in a bar fight, they charge you with a felony?
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:49:38 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: COEXERJ145
"a bloody genocidal war" as solutions to illegal immigration? All of these things are suggested daily by members of this website.You'll have to point out your charges because I have never seen that refered to by anyone but you. How can anyone take you seriously when you continually bait and misrepresent good people on this forum? I would think the occasional nut who would say such a thing would be thrown out of here.
To: Modernman
Looking up the articles on Google, they were found not guilty on the pistol whiping charge as the illegals kept changing their story.
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:51:06 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Travis McGee
Are you calling me a Quisling, Travis?
If so, why?
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posted on
08/19/2005 11:51:20 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Modernman
Something is screwed up here. I'm reading the jury was in the criminal case.
"The Salvadorans testified against Mr. Nethercott when he was tried by Texas prosecutors. The jury deadlocked on a charge of pistol-whipping but convicted Mr. Nethercott"
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