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Principles of War
August 18, 2005 | Yasotay

Posted on 08/18/2005 6:06:22 PM PDT by Yasotay

I am a military history major graduate from the United States Military Academy. The intent of this post is to take another brief look at the current conduct of war, in August 2005, by using the “Principles of War”. I am not on active duty, nor do I have access to any classified information pertaining to this war. Violating some principles of war does not mean we will lose this war, but these violations are NOT helping America win this war.

The first principle discussed is “Offensive. The United States has been on the defensive for over two years. It is time to go back on the Offensive. We need to overthrow the government of the second ‘Axis of Evil’, Iran. If needed, we also need to overthrow the Syrian government. President Bush in a speech at Fort Bragg stated that we need to stay on the offense. I say we need to go back on the offensive.

The next Principle of War that I will now discuss is “Unity of Command”. This principle was being violated for the first 2 years of the War on Terror. I am sure having the Commander of CENTCOM being bypassed and using SOCOM, created many problems. Bremer and the CPA is another example. At least those two problems have been fixed.

The third Principle of War to be looked at is “Objective”. Every military operation should have a clearly defined, decisive and attainable objective. The ultimate military objective of war is the defeat of the enemy’s armed forces. I no longer believe that this is a War on Terror. This is the first war fought over the control, ownership and use of nuclear weapons. The primary threat to the US is a nuclear attack. We have already been attacked with biological agents. While it took the US only 3 ½ years to develop nuclear weapons, Iran and terrorists have been trying to buy, steal or develop nuclear weapons for over twenty years. We must expect that they will (or have) seceded. Therefore, one of our primary objectives has to be the continued denial or destruction of our enemies’ nuclear weapons.

The fourth is “Mass”. The main effort is where your combat power is concentrated at the critical point and time to achieve decisive results. I hope this becomes Iran.

The fifth is “Economy of Force”. Afghanistan has been a great EoF mission. There may not be a better example in all of history. I hope that Iraq also becomes an EOF mission rather then the ‘Main Effort’.

The sixth is “Simplicity”. With everyone saying that this is going to be a long and complex campaign, I wonder what has happened to the basic principle of “KISS”.

Number seven is “Surprise”. While the terrorists used strategic surprise on September 11th, the enemy has appeared to have gone into extended hiding. When they stand and confront us, they die. They clearly will continue to be able to gain tactical surprise. While US forces never had strategic surprise, we have always been blessed with being able to gain operational or tactical surprise. I hope we continue to do well in that arena. The first use of nuclear weapons clearly will be a surprise. I hope we are ready.

Eight is “Security”. It appears that our combat forces are continuing to take enough measures to protect our combat power from observation, sabotage, annoyance, surprise, the press and hopefully espionage. I do not want to write anything else that may compromise that principle.

Last, but not least is “Maneuver”. I would think battalion and brigade heavy task force(s) with special forces (not UofAs) based in Iraq and Afghanistan could support operations inside of Iran. Tom Clancy may have to write a new novel.

In conclusion, I hope that I am wrong in my observations about the principles of war that were being violated. Something that Americans have always been better at then any of our enemies is learning from our errors, correcting our mistakes and driving on to victory. Let hope THAT history repeats itself.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; Unclassified; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: clausewitz; principlesofwar; war
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To: Lessismore
The clearest indication that this is not "total war", like WW II, is that there has been no declaration of war.

I have several thoughts about your post, but that would involve a whole new thread. I will always think that NOT declaring war was Bush's first mistake.

41 posted on 08/18/2005 7:00:39 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Lessismore

Is a seige possible in this context?


42 posted on 08/18/2005 7:00:48 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Lessismore

Sharon has cleared gaza, next he will clear the outlying settlements in the west bank, then he will drop 100 plus bunker busters on Isfahan and the other Iranian nuke sites. This will impede the Iranians for awhile. The Pakistanis are supplying so much, they are the true critical vulnerablity in Irans nuke ambitions.


43 posted on 08/18/2005 7:02:37 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: reluctantwarrior

The Pakis are supplying so much what?


44 posted on 08/18/2005 7:05:59 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: reluctantwarrior

That would hurt us worse than them, but going to bio diesel or making fuel from coal would give them some concern. The Middle East has absolutely nothing except oil. Go to a different fuel and our problems are solved. It might take a while but in the long run we would be better off.

Energy for world commerce really drives everything. As long as we were self sufficient we always continued to grow and never felt threatened. When coal was king there was no problem. Early in the use of oil, we had all we needed right here. The British empire was at its zenith when coal ran the steam engines. Even back during the US Civil war people don't understand why cotton was so important in the South. The major use for it was sails but steam was taking over. But sails were still important up to about 1880 or so.

What we have to do is divorce ourselves away from the Middle East. We have the coal reserves, the technoligy for nuclear power (electricity) and plenty of land for the bio fuels. Europe doesn't have this, nor does the Middle East. Take away the univeral need for oil from the Middle East and they go back to living in tents and riding camel. They even have to import sand to make good concrete.


45 posted on 08/18/2005 7:06:17 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: MNJohnnie

I think you nailed it. Not only is there no political consensus for Iran or Syria, the conventional forces are going to need a breather.

The regimes of Iran & Syria are teetering right now. Anything less than a decisive move against either country would probably be counterproductive. It would actually confer a kind of moral legitimacy that both regimes lack at present.


46 posted on 08/18/2005 7:06:50 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: MNJohnnie

Wrong .... I did not say attack Iran .... I said OVERTHROW it's government. We have a SUCCESSFUL history of doing that in Iran. We are in a perfect position to do it again. That is not operational overreach. Military operations to support that (unlike the Bay of Pigs) would be needed. Not invading Iran.


47 posted on 08/18/2005 7:07:25 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: LachlanMinnesota

AQ Khan is the technical wiz that has spread the know how on nuke manufacturing, the fissile material they are making themselves. But the centrifuge design is Pakistani. The technical training was done by Pakistani's and could be still. Who monitors flights from Islamabad to Teheran? The CIA does a piss poor job of Humint and doesn't know if the Iranians are close to gassification or if they already are reprocessing.


48 posted on 08/18/2005 7:09:42 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Being a PE major in college, I think I know what you are asking but am not really too sure. Come down a level or two on the intellect so I can respond.
49 posted on 08/18/2005 7:10:09 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: U S Army EOD

I am a strong alternative feuls backer, how would riding the bus one day a week hurt us?


50 posted on 08/18/2005 7:11:12 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Actually, a blockade, since we only control the Indian Ocean, Persian Gulf, Iraqi, and Afghani Borders. This leaves the Turkish, Armenian, Azerbaijan, Caspian Sea and Turkmenistan borders in doubt.

Iran is 1.65 million square kilometer, and has a population of 68 million.

One of the keys is whether the US could keep the Straits of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf open to shipping of crude oil. If not, there would be a mighty conflict for the remaining supplies, with severe rationing world wide.


51 posted on 08/18/2005 7:11:33 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: LachlanMinnesota

The biggest problem with Iran is they might close the Straits or "Baker" it. I don't think a blockade is a good idea. Help the Iranians overthrow their government. Make the Iranian President not get a good night sleep.


52 posted on 08/18/2005 7:11:33 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Yasotay

Congratulations on your appointment and your assessment.

I also wish to point to a strategically placed peace initiative now brewing that must be well funded, indicating not only anti-war/Bush sentiment, but perhaps something else: party politicking, and, worse, infiltration. See Sperry's work; I am high on his words right now.


53 posted on 08/18/2005 7:15:01 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: reluctantwarrior
Sharon has cleared gaza, next he will clear the outlying settlements in the west bank, then he will drop 100 plus bunker busters on Isfahan and the other Iranian nuke sites.

This would slow down Iran's ability to produce her own nuclear weapons. However, it would seal Israel's fate.

Israel would become a Pariah State to most other countries of the world. And it is likely that another country would supply Iran with operational nuclear weapons within a year or two.

54 posted on 08/18/2005 7:15:32 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Yasotay

Instigating an insurgency briefs well but it is another story for the SF guy that goes in there and pulls together Guerrillas to fight the Mullahs. It is possible but will the US sheeple tolerate a bunch of show trials of SF and CIA bubbas who get doublecrossed by their indig freedom fighters.


55 posted on 08/18/2005 7:15:57 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: reluctantwarrior

No problem with that or how about no students in highschools have cars. We are going to have to change. I know I have basically had to shut down a small business I do on the side as the result of fuel cost. We need to change because things are to expensive, not wait until we run out and then change. Then it is too late.

If the Middle East understands we don't need them, then they will understand we don't care what we do to them. They have always understood that for the past 1000 years.


56 posted on 08/18/2005 7:16:12 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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I also wish to add that the neat triangulation of Syria, Iran and Saudi place Iraq in that spot on a newborn's head that must be protected at all costs.

We will be having this thing one way or another for a very long time. They question is how much control we actually want over our own futures, individually, and, as a nation.


57 posted on 08/18/2005 7:17:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: combat_boots

Pardon. The question


58 posted on 08/18/2005 7:18:10 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: U S Army EOD

Sorry, no one ever accused me of high intellect, so I can't tell you how much I appreciate that...I am only good at pretending...

however, I was referring to a book written by Liddell Hart called "On Srategy" which details historical incidents of military strategy in which the outcome of the battle is determined by indirect action before the battle begins, such as by proper positioning of troops, denial of lines of supply, eroding the morale of the enemy, and the like. IN many cases, the battle was avoided by such indirection , since the opponent acknowledged defeat before the battle was joined.

I would like to find a way for Iran to acknowledge defeat without joining the battle. The only thing I know, is that in all of these situations, the threat of attack needed to be present.

I recommend the book to all interested in the study of global or military conflict.


59 posted on 08/18/2005 7:18:26 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: RightWhale
At West Point I actually got to talk with then Major Abizaid about his combat experiences. General Abizaid is one incredible person. He is the right man .... at the right time .... at the right place in history. I am sure we do and it amazes me how well we are doing with the small amount of forces that we have on the ground. The operations of 2/7 Cav last fall, was just one small example of what great things are being done in Iraq.
60 posted on 08/18/2005 7:19:49 PM PDT by Yasotay
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