Posted on 08/18/2005 9:18:50 AM PDT by SC33
Frustration is rising along the Southwest border.
Angered by unending waves of illegal immigration, some Americans have taken matters into their own hands by forming "Minuteman" patrols that they plan to expand from Arizona to Texas this fall.
A Houston congressman is pushing for creation of militias of armed volunteers to augment Border Patrol forces. Gov. Rick Perry is mulling a border neighborhood watch-style program.
And in recent days, the governors of Arizona and New Mexico fed up with the failure of the federal government to control the border have declared state emergencies in counties struggling with rising immigrant smuggling and violence.
"It's a scream for help from Congress," said Frank Sharry, head of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant advocacy group lobbying for an immigration overhaul. "They are basically pounding the table and saying, 'Do something.' "
While Washington policy-makers are definitely attuned to the growing public anxiety over border security and illegal immigration, they're far from achieving consensus on the proper remedy.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Wow, that's the only thing you could highlight out of all of that entire post?
Your primary assertion was that there is a lowering of crime rate, even with illegals. I proved that wrong.
Your desperation is showing.
Why are you against the US having secure borders?
-- There is one (1) less Mexican illegal alien car-jacker SOB in the USA today -
-- "On or about eight (8) years ago" three (3) fortyfour-forty (.44-40) Blue Glasers fired from a Colt SA exploded in his upper torso mass -
-- Room temperature...... - exit laughing......
Weak,'rod. I mean, really wimpy.
Your true self is showing
So is your's - devoid of machismo. Whining about being attacked, all the while attacking - you could at least take what you got coming like a man. Disgusting.
Don't bother arguing with Bayourod. He has already admitted on a previous thread to having an illegal maid, or was that Dane? It might have been Dane, but they are both one in the same anyway.
No you didn't. I cited the statistic that the crime rate is the lowest in 35 years. Site your data the you claim you proved me wrong with.
All you did was quote a bunch of anti-Hispanic opinions and unique isolated types of offenses and typical recidivism rates.
Typical 1960s type propaganda that only people predisposed to believe the worse about Hispanics (or Latinos as you call them) would use to reinforce their opposition to reforms that the Secretary of Homeland Security has testified are necessary to secure our borders against terrorists.
Bush haters on both sides of the political spectrum seem to think that their hatred of President Bush justifies any degree of dishonesty.
Look at your previous post, quisling
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465954/posts?page=27#27
Read what the woman said "Because the California I see everyday is crime ridden, jails are full etc etc.... "
You said, "urban myth". Which means that you say illegals dont commit crime. Those stats I posted showed that your assertion was a total lie.
You're a total propagandist liar who has been banned so many times from this site.
For a quick review of bayourod's other lies see:
To: JediForce
"P.S. My Senate Majority Leaders Survey/Fund raising letter came in with 45 questions. AND NOT ONE ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR BORDER SECURITY....NOT ONE. "
It's only an important issue to a very small number of people, all of whom post on FR.
215 posted on 07/19/2005 10:32:21 AM CDT by bayourod
To: PRND21
"Tancredo and his followers are bumbling fools."
It's even worse than that. ****They are against the war in Iraq.******* It is part of their isolationist philosophy as enunciated by their prophet Buchanan.
****They opposed President Bush sending troops to Iraq in the beginning. *****They want the troops brought back now to guard the border and they want the money being spent on Iraq to be spent building a wall around our borders.
310 posted on 07/19/2005 1:29:44 PM CDT by bayourod
Just curious, Rod. What would you call an hispanic who is anti illegal alien?
Not that it suprises me at all.
L
What's your excuse for being dishonest? Is it your hatred of American workers, or is it your love for illegal alien workers? Or both?
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
All you had to do is provide a link to statistical data that shows that the crime rate is not down, but instead all you did was throw up a smoke screen.
What is it about President Bush that triggers such emotional irrational dishonesty as we see in Cindy Sheehan, Howard Dean and Michael Moore?
If your head hasn't exploded already, this thread should put you over the top.
Are you really this stupid? No, you're a troll. Let's go through this again:
Look at your previous post, quisling
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465954/posts?page=27#27
Read what the woman said "Because the California I see everyday is crime ridden, jails are full etc etc.... "
You said, "urban myth". Then you went on to spout off about anti illegals blah blah blah... Which means that you say illegals dont commit crime. Those stats I posted showed that your assertion was a total lie.
Does that address illegal aliens? Nope!
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
The leadership of the Columbia Lil Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
source:http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on immigration, Border, Security and Claims. "Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent social security numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens." Source: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/morganelli100103.htm
Forty-five percent of criminal illegal immigrants are re-arrested after their release, with more than 80% of those offenses occurring in L.A. County, said Bob Mimura, head of the countywide criminal justice coordinating committee."
What does your strawman argument have to do with illegal immigration?
What is it about illegal immigration that triggers such emotional irrational dishonesty as we see in individuals like you?
Whatever they prefer to be called, just like everyone else, SevenSealsSeven SealsSeven-SealsSenselessDefenselessSafeness'sStencilsStanislas. Different people have different reasons for sharing certain feelings. One Hispanic lady says she dislikjesdislikesdislodgesdislocates them because: "They make me look bad." She is quite proud that her family has been here several generations. One of her complaints is that they "just keep having babies, babies, babies and more babies." Actually the average is 3.1 babies, compared to the national average of 2.1 I guess different people have different values. My family on both sides predate the Revolutionary War. Each of my grandmathersgrandmothersgrandmother'sgrandfathersgrandfather'sgrandmother had ten children. Not all survived to adulthood. Large families were necessary at the turn of the last century in rural West Texas and Northern Alabama. Somehow I don't feel like my grandmothers make me look bad at all.
My favorite 'rod fib - "I don't speak three words of Spanish"
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