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To: Stellar Dendrite
You undertook to, and have claimed to, disprove my statement that the crime rate in California is the lowest in 35 years

All you had to do is provide a link to statistical data that shows that the crime rate is not down, but instead all you did was throw up a smoke screen.

What is it about President Bush that triggers such emotional irrational dishonesty as we see in Cindy Sheehan, Howard Dean and Michael Moore?

If your head hasn't exploded already, this thread should put you over the top.

53 posted on 08/18/2005 7:45:36 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: bayourod

Are you really this stupid? No, you're a troll. Let's go through this again:

Look at your previous post, quisling

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465954/posts?page=27#27

Read what the woman said "Because the California I see everyday is crime ridden, jails are full etc etc.... "

You said, "urban myth". Then you went on to spout off about anti illegals blah blah blah... Which means that you say illegals dont commit crime. Those stats I posted showed that your assertion was a total lie.

Does that address illegal aliens? Nope!


In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.


The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.


source:http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html



Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on immigration, Border, Security and Claims. "Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent social security numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens." Source: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/morganelli100103.htm

Forty-five percent of criminal illegal immigrants are re-arrested after their release, with more than 80% of those offenses occurring in L.A. County, said Bob Mimura, head of the countywide criminal justice coordinating committee."


54 posted on 08/18/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: bayourod
You undertook to, and have claimed to, disprove my statement that the crime rate in California is the lowest in 35 years

What does your strawman argument have to do with illegal immigration?

55 posted on 08/18/2005 7:52:24 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod
What is it about President Bush that triggers such emotional irrational dishonesty as we see in Cindy Sheehan, Howard Dean and Michael Moore?

What is it about illegal immigration that triggers such emotional irrational dishonesty as we see in individuals like you?

56 posted on 08/18/2005 7:56:25 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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