Posted on 08/17/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
Half of Mexico Wants to Move to the U.S.
Jim Meyers, NewsMax.comNearly half of Mexican adults would move to the U.S. if they could and one in five say they would do so illegally, new surveys reveal.
Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005
These same surveys suggest that America's problem with illegals will only get worse in the years to come.
Waves of illegals continue to wreak havoc on America's southern border, and this past weekend New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson ordered a state of emergency in four of his state's counties that border Mexico "because of the urgency of the situation and, unfortunately, because of the total inaction and lack of resources from the federal government and Congress."
Arizona followed suit and declared a state of emergency on Monday.
Whether Mexico Gets Better or Not
The surveys of Mexican citizens by the Pew Hispanic Center also found that increased education and an improved standard of living won't dampen the stampede of illegals coming across the border.
The two surveys conducted in Mexico asked: "If at this moment you had the means and opportunity to go to live in the USA, would you go?" Almost half - 46 percent - said yes.
When asked if they would be inclined to work and live in the USA "without authorization," meaning illegally, 21 percent said they would.
Showing that interest in emigrating isn't confined to the poor, more than one-third of Mexican college graduates said they would move to the U.S. if they could, and more than one in eight said they'd be willing to migrate even if they had to enter the country illegally.
"People with college degrees believe they have greater economic opportunities by migration to the U.S. even illegally than they would staying at home," Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center, a research group in Washington, told USA Today.
Mexicans wishing to come to the U.S. are "distributed across the whole breadth of Mexican society," he added.
A Difference of Perspective
Six in 10 Hispanics born in the U.S. favor requirements that people show proof of citizenship or legal residency before they can get a driver's license, but only 29 percent of foreign-born Hispanics agree.
An estimated 10 million Mexicans now live in the U.S., more than half of them illegally, according to Suro.
The unfettered movement of illegals across our southern border is costing American taxpayers dearly:
"Millions of people are going to keep coming every decade unless we restrict it," said Steven Camarota, director of research at the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, which favors strict enforcement of immigration laws.
"That's the bottom line."
That makes more sense. We needed people to work in the war industries but you can bet that they weren't sneaking in with the country well gaurded during the war.
What is the total number you come up with for 2005?
I'm not sure that I would give them the vote right away at least until they learn English.
Also the European immigrants that we sponsor to live in and develop Mexico will have to be assimilated.
"--- Time to annex Mexico, heck, we might even win a plebiscite."
PRIVATE ACTION FOR MEXICAN-U.S. UNION
The Expansionist Party of the United States advocates merger of Mexico into the United States, whereby the 31 states and Federal District of Mexico would become up to 10 states of the Union, the boundaries of which would be decided by Mexicans before petition for statehood, or by Mexicans and Americans in good-faith consultation after such petition.
We believe that such a greater Union would be in the very best interest of all people of good will, but the initiative for such a grand marriage of lands and peoples must come from private persons, because the public leaders of both countries are unlikely to propose such a merger for fear of angering nationalists in Mexico on the one hand or isolationists, racists, and cultural chauvinists in the United States on the other.
Address:http://members.aol.com/xpus/Mexico.html
I don't have the data, this is 2002 data, I am about to submit a FOIA request as the .gov has stopped making the data public ( or at least I can't find it)
That's just it, it's not like illegal immigration from Mexico is a new problem, the country's been going through this forever. The only difference is in the past the politicians did what was necessary to end it when things got out of hand.
I have been saying that for many years (annex Canada too), they have the natural resources and the manpower, we have the capital and the know how.
Mexico should just hand us the keys to their country and become a US territory. Then all the illegals will be legal and they don't have to leave home. They'll get all the free services delivered to them.
/sarc
That map in #11 is aready out of date. I can tell you that that Latino population in Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida is higher than 1 to 9%. In the case of those two counties, however, many of the immigrants are middle to upper class. Weston (Broward County) is effectively Caracas's northermost suburb. In 1990, it barely existed.
My guess is that the same statistic speaks for Canada as well.
I actually expected the Arizona map to be darker red. Mental note to self: find out about housing and employment in Montana.
Aprender ingles, amigos.
PRIVATE ACTION FOR MEXICAN-U.S. UNION
The Expansionist Party of the United States advocates merger of Mexico into the United States, whereby the 31 states and Federal District of Mexico would become up to 10 states of the Union, the boundaries of which would be decided by Mexicans before petition for statehood, or by Mexicans and Americans in good-faith consultation after such petition.
We believe that such a greater Union would be in the very best interest of all people of good will, but the initiative for such a grand marriage of lands and peoples must come from private persons, because the public leaders of both countries are unlikely to propose such a merger for fear of angering nationalists in Mexico on the one hand or isolationists, racists, and cultural chauvinists in the United States on the other.
Address:http://members.aol.com/xpus/Mexico.html
" --- Nothing the United States did to Mexico accounts for Mexico's miserable performance as a nation, nor the misery of the bulk of its people. Mexico's own culture of elitism (in both its Spanish and Amerind precursors), racism, oligarchy, plutocracy, and sexism, plus a national tendency to scapegoat the United States for everything that is wrong with Mexico, is to blame for Mexico's misery. If geographic places were traded, Brazil being next to the U.S. and Mexico being where Brazil is, Mexico would still be a mess but would have no one to blame. So let Mexicans end the blame game and admit that all Mexico's efforts to compete with the United States have failed, then move on to a new gameplan.
Willy-nilly, Mexico does now and will forever hugely impact the United States. That impact can be destructive or constructive. In large measure, the present day-to-day impact of Mexico's separate nationhood upon the United States, and especially on border towns menaced by a mass influx of poor and desperate people, is largely negative. Beyond the border area, NAFTA has made much of the current interaction more positive, but illegal immigration remains a seriously adverse aspect of the current relationship.
The Expansionist Party would end all illegal immigration by permitting everyone in the United States and Mexico to work in and move to any part of either present country as a matter of right. Americans would have fully as much right to move to Mexico and open businesses or live out their retirement there as would Mexicans have the right to move to the United States in search of work and education. Indeed, in that the climate of much of Mexico is more suitable for old people than is that of much of the U.S., where severe winters endanger older people's lives, it would make very good economic sense, for both (present) countries, for Mexico to exchange many of its young people for many of the United States' old people.
Social Security payments that barely suffice or don't even suffice to cover living expenses for the elderly in the U.S. would accord senior citizens lives of considerable comfort in Mexico. With nothing more than their current retirement benefits, they could hire cooks, housekeepers, and personal assistants from among the people who don't move to the U.S., and thus live better lives in Mexico, doing more good for more people along the way, than they ever could in the U.S., where many can't afford any help at all with the challenges that life poses the elderly. Who can argue against that?
Moreover, millions of younger Mexicans filling jobs in the United States (and the U.S. presently has a serious labor shortage) would pay Social Security taxes that would put a presently endangered system in the black for the foreseeable future.
There is so much for everyone to gain, and so little for anyone to lose, from merger of Mexico into the United States that we don't understand why this hasn't spontaneously happened long ago. But because it hasn't, we who believe in the multitudinous benefits all around of Mexican participation in the Great American Union must now exert ourselves to make it happen.
Many of the Founding Fathers of the United States aspired to a Union that would unite all the Americas, from Point Barrow in the North to Tierra del Fuego in the south: an American Union, for all Americans "
You are absolutely right that we should not blame this all on Bush. That would be absurd. I am thankful, however, that after 100 years of this, people are finally coming together and demanding something be done about this gross negligence in our national security.
It's 2002 data and grey indicates no data, I will continue crunching numbers and average the data by % of state population to give a more accurate picture
FRmail
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