Posted on 08/14/2005 11:59:20 AM PDT by johnny7
IT STILL SEEMS all so close.
Here, on Route 23, bathed in the August morning sun and only a short drive from Route 80 and the Willowbrook Mall, a roadside motel bears silent witness to a police bust that might have been. For a year before the 9/11 attacks, the Wayne Inn was home to Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaida mastermind behind the hijacking plot that killed almost 3,000 people.
(Excerpt) Read more at northjersey.com ...
"The intellegence operatives tried to sound an alarm but were rebuffed by government lawyers who feared possible legal complications of using military spying techniques to keep tabs on foreign vistors in the United States....."
The grim realisation of the decision of President Clinton, to rebuff the Sudanese hits home. They actually wanted to hand over OBL to the US, Clinton refused- because "it had no legal precedence in international law" (rough quote).
It is IMHO the cancer of political correctness that is a major factor.
"I may be seeing this with different eyes."
No, I see it too. Especially the part about "government lawyers" being reluctant to pass on US military intel on foreign nationals in the USA, legal or not. I do not see where an investigation by the FBI, upon information from Army intel, would have violated the Posse Comitatus Act. The government lawyers involved in these decisions need to be deposed, and then possibly hanged
"Post-it" notes on Mohammed Atta's photo, indeed!
The nightmare continues and will never end.
Your use of this act sent me scrambling. Google sent me to www.dojdov.net/posse. I also consulted my copy of Gunsmoke Over Lincoln County, by Phillip J Rasch. You will already have been well versed in this act.
I had jumped in feet first though, and did not do my homework. True in 1878, the Posse Comitatus act was created. It reminded me that primarily, it forbade the use of the US military in police matters. Of course it was applicable in the internal struggles between US civilians.
I note, in my own defense, that in the Lincoln County War, the military mostly turned away from the violence of the two factions. These were the McSween- Dolan factions. The military sent all kinds of information on these factions, to the various civilian bodies in Washington and New Mexico. No problem there. I guess somebody should lose their jobs over this one. Security is paramount to shilly shallying.
He should be hung.
Yes, and the original version had provisions for exceptions. These provisions, however, were in keeping with the civilian control of the military, in that it was only within the power of Congress to authorize and the Sec'y of Defense to regulate exceptions. But once again, without printing out and parsing an up to date version of the act and going over the language, line-by-line with a ruler as I do contracts, do I find anywhere that it is against the law for the US Army to inform the FBI that known terrorists are within the jurisdiction of domestic law enforcement.
This business of a "wall" reminds me of how the ACLU protected American born Soviet agents from being prosecuted at home for passing on secrets abroad. A practice that has been a tradition of the left since before Ethel and Julius Rosenberg. And, FWIW, nuclear weapons are excluded from any protection of the Posse Comitatus Act, (18 U.S.C. 831 (e). If a terrorist cell can be considered to place the public in the same peril as a WMD, then what is the problem with the sharing of the activities of foreign nationals from terrorist states within the borders of the US.
In the end, it appears that 9-11 was the caused by Muslim terrorists and permitted by government lawyers.
The Posse Comitatus Act was the excuse used to prevent certain illegal dealings within the Clinton administration from being exposed.
More on this article here:
http://tks.nationalreview.com/archives/072966.asp
And since the fingers point to a Dem administration and policy, of course the major media that reaches most Americans is not going to even touch this story of negligent mass murder. Now, if Bush could be seen as responsible for this wall, every paper and newscast would be on it for the next 2 years.
We need a new, loud media that will get to everyone to counteract the MSM.
Thanks, I hope this has legs.
Gorelick was the wall-builder. The wall was the reason why the info was not passed forward from the Able Danger team to the FBI - it's right there in the article.
it forbade the use of the US military in police matters.
And the long-timers here at FR can cite chapter and verse regarding Posse Comitatus issues in the early Clinton administration - in one word - Waco.
One thing for sure, the "compassion" of the left, is an obscene charade. They do not give a damn for any human tragedy- unless they can milk it for their own purpose.
This type of thinking was a large part of the problem. It's the same thinking that led Carter and Stansfield Turner to de-sinisterfy the CIA. I'm not sure if they really thought this way, or were merely covering up their desire to do nothing. A lot of this is discussed adnauseum in Ghost Wars...a book that will make you sick at the missed chances, and dangers of Pakistani duplicity.
WHat a piece of Crap!
Kelly disguises clinton/Gorelick Corruption as "government incompetence".
He can't blame Bush, he won't blame clinton, so it's "The Government"...
Just another Left Wing Water Carrier
Ow!
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