Posted on 08/14/2005 10:38:56 AM PDT by george76
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Good blog on the subject, check his blogs from the past few
days. Found him on Hugh Hewitt's web page.
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Good blog on the subject, check his blogs from the past few
days. Found him on Hugh Hewitt's web page.
What were the other reasons?
Even if Atta wasn't specifically mentioned, the whole Able Danger program and all the leads still were not passed on to the FBI due to the Gorelick wall right? And none of this was mentioned in the 9/11 report so I think we still have a major problem. Also the Commission buried Mary Jo White's second memo.
This article states that apparently Able Danger puts Atta in Prague with an Iraqi intel officer.
Has anyone heard Weldon or anyone else state that Able Danger can place Atta in Prague? If we can do this, it will virtually kill the left and their mantra that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/pp/05226/553271.stm
Paragraph #1064 (on page 228) The allegation that Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in April 2001 originates from the reporting of a single source of the Czech intelligence service. Shortly after 9/11, the source reported having seen Atta meet with Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani, an Iraqi diplomat, at the Iraqi Embassy in Prague on April 9, 2001, at 11:00 A.M. This information was passed to CIA headquarters.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #1065 (on page 228) The U.S. legal attaché (Legat) in Prague, the representative of the FBI, met with the Czech services source. After the meeting, the assessment of the Legat and the Czech officers present was that they were 70 percent sure that the source was sincere and believed his own story of the meeting. Subsequently, the Czech intelligence service publicly stated that there was a 70 percent probability that the meeting between Atta and Ani had taken place.The Czech Interior Minister also made several statements to the press about his belief that the meeting had occurred, and the story was widely reported.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #1066 (on page 228) The FBI has gathered evidence indicating that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 4 (as evidenced by a bank surveillance camera photo), and in Coral Springs, Florida on April 11, where he and Shehhi leased an apartment. On April 6, 9, 10, and 11,Attas cellular telephone was used numerous times to call various lodging establishments in Florida from cell sites within Florida.We cannot confirm that he placed those calls. But there are no U.S. records indicating that Atta departed the country during this period. Czech officials have reviewed their flight and border records as well for any indication that Atta was in the Czech Republic in April 2001, including records of anyone crossing the border who even looked Arab.They have also reviewed pictures from the area near the Iraqi embassy and have not discovered photos of anyone who looked like Atta. No evidence has been found that Atta was in the Czech Republic in April 2001.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #1067 (on page 228) According to the Czech government,Ani, the Iraqi officer alleged to have met with Atta, was about 70 miles away from Prague on April 89 and did not return until the afternoon of the ninth, while the source was firm that the sighting occurred at 11:00 A.M. When questioned about the reported April 2001 meeting,Aninow in custodyhas denied ever meeting or having any contact with Atta.Ani says that shortly after 9/11, he became concerned that press stories about the alleged meeting might hurt his career. Hoping to clear his name, Ani asked his superiors to approach the Czech government about refuting the allegation. He also denies knowing of any other Iraqi official having contact with Atta.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #1071 (on page 229) The available evidence does not support the original Czech report of an Atta-Ani meeting.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #1040 (on page 223) 7.2 THE 9/11 PILOTS IN THE UNITED STATES The Hamburg Pilots Arrive in the United States In the early summer of 2000, the Hamburg group arrived in the United States to begin flight training. Marwan al Shehhi came on May 29, arriving in Newark on a flight from Brussels. He went to New York City and waited there for Mohamed Atta to join him. On June 2, Atta traveled to the Czech Republic by bus from Germany and then flew from Prague to Newark the next day. According to Ramzi Binalshibh,Atta did not meet with anyone in Prague; he simply believed it would contribute to operational security to fly out of Prague rather than Hamburg, the departure point for much of his previous international travel.[ [clusters] ]
Paragraph #3041 (on page 522) 69. Reports that Atta was in the Prague airport on May 3031, 2000, and that he was turned back because he lacked a visa appear to be a case of mistaken identity: a Pakistani traveler with a name similar to Attas attempted to enter the Czech Republic from Saudi Arabia via Germany but was forced to return to Germany because he lacked a valid Czech visa. CIA cable, report re traveler to Prague, Dec. 8, 2001.
There are more:
Vivísimo - 9/11 Report Demo - Clustered search on Atta
Mind you, I'm not defending the report. Just telling you what they said.
Author/reporter Peter Lance on Snell:
As soon as I heard Snells name I suspected that what my source had been telling me was true: that the Commission staff was limiting the scope of the investigation and cherry picking evidence.
Snell had been the Assistant U.S. attorney who co-prosecuted Ramzi Yousef for the Bojinka case in 1996. In my first book 1000 Years For Revenge I recounted how the Justice Department, during Snells tenure, had limited the scope of the Bojinka case.
http://www.readersread.com/features/peterlance.htm
Follow the NRO link at post #24, and the one there to TKS...........everyone seems to be backing off of the ABLE DANGER story........
Too bad the 9/11 Commission didn't know that Atta had fake passports.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1462192/posts?page=12#12
I saw that. And I'll believe it when it happens.
There is so much the 9/11 Commission got wrong, or didn't report on, that I don't believe they did a good job. They had a pre-determined outcome and as such, had blinders to any other information.
For instance, the satellite photos and information about Salmon Pak did not make it into the final report. Only a staff report released on December 2003 mentioned Salmon Pak.
So we have jihadists training on a 747 fuselage in Iraq and it doesn't make the report? Doesn't pass the smell test.
Another thing: could there be two Mohammade Attas?
The 9/11 report listed quite a number of reasons to disbelief the Czech account. The cell phone was just one of many
Such as?
Credit ravingnutter which disputes everything you posted from the 9/11 Commission report with regard to Atta:
In Washington, the FBI moved to quiet the Prague connection by telling journalists that it had car rentals and records that put Atta in Virginia Beach, Va., and Florida close to, if not during, the period when he was supposed to be in Prague. The New York Times , citing information provided by "federal law enforcement officials," reported that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 2, 2001, and by April 11, "Atta was back in Florida, renting a car."
Newsweek reported that, "the FBI pointed out Atta was traveling at the time [in early April 2001] between Florida and Virginia Beach, Va.," adding, "The bureau had his rental car and hotel receipts." And intelligence expert James Bamford, after quoting FBI Director Robert Mueller as saying that the FBI "ran down literally hundreds of thousands of leads and checked every record we could get our hands on," reported in USA Today , "The records revealed that Atta was in Virginia Beach during the time he supposedly met the Iraqi in Prague."
All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license.
His international license was at his father's home in Cairo, Egypt (where his roommate Marwan al-Shehhi picked it up in late April).
Nor were there other records in the hands of the FBI that put Atta in the United States at the time. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in June 2002, "It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias" to "meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague." Clearly, it was not beyond the capabilities of the 9/11 hijackers to use aliases.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/PragueConnection.htm
You have an excellent point.
I enjoy your comments.
I will continue to look deeper into this to find more information, as we all are.
Thank, George.
I hope that newspaper wasn't expanding on Weldon's assertion that Able Danger had tracked Atta and knew he wsa part of the Brooklyn cell.
I'm trying to find out if anyone has heard Weldon or read in his book that Able Danger is able to place Atta in Prague meeting with an Iraqi goverment official in April 2001.
Sorry I responded before seeing your list.
However paras 1066 and 1067 are pretty weak. For example being 90 miles from a city should easily allow a meeting to take place in a two day window.
Several of the other paras are just restatements, no additional details. Similarly, if Atta went to a couple of other countries en route to Prague, that would be very tough to uncover.
It would be a lot easier to believe that a thorough and reliable investigation had been produced if commissioner Gorlick hadn't had a major role. It didn't have to be this way. We need to know the truth so we can be sure that we have security.
Of significance, IMO, is Reagan's Executive Order 12333, which specifically directs the FBI, DOD and CIA to cooperate and share info. (Summarized here http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/abledanger.asp)
By all accounts, the failure to prevent 911 was the result of intelligence failures and the failures to share info.
Why, because the Clinton Whitehouse, Reno and Gorelicker told them not to share intel info!
rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/project/ter/ter_wj081005_weldon.rm
Gosh, I am so cynical
Does anybody think that the Sheehan affair could have been timed to overshadow this ABLE DANGER info?
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Well, I don't see how one whacko low-life can overshadow the significance of ABLE DANGER. The AD issue IS SO BIG relative to corruption in Washington and the security of our nation that it must get blown wide open.
Sheehan is just another useful idiot of the left -- she will be history soon.
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