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U.S. gun rights at issue in UN effort
New Orleans Times-Picayune ^
| August 13, 2005
| Bruce Alpert
Posted on 08/14/2005 12:12:44 AM PDT by Crackingham
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Comment #2 Removed by Moderator
To: Crackingham; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Eaker; Squantos; mhking; rdb3
Critics of Vitter's bill, including Eric Howard of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, accuse the freshman senator of placating voters who oppose gun control and are cynical about the United Nations. he says that as if it is a BAD thing... all it means is Vitter is appealing to the practical, intelligent, observant members of his constituency who have at least some remembrance of past facts and trends (such as "unilateral" disarmament leading to totalitarianism, such as "gun-control" has always actually meant "people control", such as Oil for Food, etc...).
Of course, since Graboids like Howard pander to emotional morons who can be swated with doggerel and pat talking-points, I suppose he WOULD consider Vitter's behavior to be beyond the pale.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:20:38 AM PDT
by
King Prout
(and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
To: Crackingham
The farmers in the countryside and the people living in the so-called "blighted" areas of
Zimbabwe could use a few guns right about now to keep Mugabe's thugs away.
"There hasnt been any revolution so far because the potential rebels cannot get guns. No one is willing to arm the dissatisfied majority, and over two thirds of the population lives in poverty. . . . The government seems determined to starve its enemies to death, secure in the knowledge that the victims are unarmed, and the government forces have lots of guns."
As Glenn Reynolds points out, perhaps we need an international right to guns.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:22:46 AM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Crackingham
Currently on my knees, BEGGING, please U.N.
Come and take it!
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:23:42 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(The defense of our nation should begin at the borders...Mr President?.....George?)
To: Crackingham
Critics of Vitter's bill, including Eric Howard of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, accuse the freshman senator of placating voters who oppose gun control and are cynical about the United Nations. Placate me or else!
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:29:17 AM PDT
by
Jeff Gordon
(Recall Barbara Boxer)
To: trubluolyguy
I think the UN might get 2 blocks away from the UN before the "illegally" armed New Yorkers would have them squiting in their pants.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:29:19 AM PDT
by
jwh_Denver
(The government said it? I believe it! Hehe hoho haha!)
To: Crackingham
So let me get this straight. U.S. citizens are sending guns to thugs in Africa so they can kill "particularly children?" I'm sorry. I don't do recreational drugs so I'm not buying that.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:29:30 AM PDT
by
FlingWingFlyer
(We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
To: Chevy Sales
Any attempt to actually impose this kind of Resolution would equate to Suicide for the U.N.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:29:37 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
Comment #10 Removed by Moderator
To: Crackingham
brutal militias in Africa and elsewhere that target civilians, particularly children. Yup, push the children forward as an excuse to grab guns. What a novel idea, that's never been tried before.
Militias trying to kill children would find the job just as easy with knives or baseball bats.
The One Worlders know that they have to disarm the american public, because without that, they will never get rid of that pesky old constitution.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:40:09 AM PDT
by
konaice
To: King Prout
"Rebecca Peters, director of the London-based International Action Network on Small Arms, said that while the National Rifle Association is trying to portray the UN effort as an attempt to require Americans to register their guns, the consensus of delegates who met at the United Nations last month is quite different."Here's Statements by Member States (in PDF) My acrobat reader is down, if there are any goodies -do post!
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:44:51 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
To: Crackingham
Interesting, isn't it, that the U.N. wants to annihilate our Second Amendment rights? I recall all too vividly that, not too long ago, Herr Kofi and crew were busted for
assault weapons violations when it was determined that Kofi's security contingent had weapons that were illegal in the U.S.!
Naturally, the U.N. and its sycophants ignore this very salient fact.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:44:57 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: MJY1288
Any attempt to actually impose this kind of Resolution would equate to Suicide for the U.N. No disrespect, but I'll believe it when I see it. So far, the U.N. has done everything it can to make its intentions plain, but even our party heads keep kowtowing to the terrorist- and tyrant-sympathizers holed up in New York.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:47:29 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: Crackingham
The proposed UN regulations will not even being to stop the flow of weapons to "brutal militias in Africa and elsewhere that target civilians, particularly children." The "brutal militias" will break any laws they want to break and go right around any UN regulations. All these propsed regulations will do is create more cushy jobs at the UN, which is always the hidden agenda of UN administrators.
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:47:34 AM PDT
by
defenderSD
(At half past midnight, the ghost of Vince Foster wanders through the West Wing.)
To: Prime Choice
The "party heads" is not who the U.N. should fear, it's the general population they need to fear
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posted on
08/14/2005 12:54:36 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
To: Crackingham
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posted on
08/14/2005 1:02:01 AM PDT
by
SWAMPSNIPER
(LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
To: MJY1288
I really wish I could share your optimism, but the general population has consistently had a "I dare you to cross this line" mentality which is followed up by zero-zip-nada action when said line is crossed.
The Second Amendment has been abrogated to near destruction in several states in this union. No action has been taken over that, either. I find it hard to believe anything will be any different when (not if) the U.N. teams up with the Brady jackwits.
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posted on
08/14/2005 1:05:03 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: Prime Choice
The sunset of the AWB meant nothing to you?
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posted on
08/14/2005 1:08:37 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
To: MJY1288
The sunset of the AWB meant nothing to you? Just proves my point. Nobody got up in arms to throw it out. It had to die from neglect. GWB himself stated that he would sign its continuance if it went to his desk. Fortunately, the RINOs and Democrats in Congress didn't have enough numbers to make that happen.
And what's more, the sunset of the AWB didn't do squat to the anti-Second Amendment laws in California, New York, Illinois or a host of other states. Not one damned thing.
So yeah, it's a hollow victory.
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posted on
08/14/2005 1:11:56 AM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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