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No ID equals no vote under proposed rules
CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES/AZ Daily Star ^ | 08.13.2005 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 08/13/2005 5:27:58 AM PDT by Borax Queen

PHOENIX - Arizonans who show up at the polls without some form of acceptable identification will be denied a ballot, perhaps as soon as local elections this November.

On Friday, Secretary of State Jan Brewer revealed her proposal for procedures election workers will have to follow to determine who gets to vote. Brewer said the plan complies with the requirement of Proposition 200, approved by voters in November, which mandates ID both to register and vote.

"Voters who produce no ID will not be provided a ballot and will be instructed to return with an appropriate identification," Brewer said.

Her plan spells out which forms of ID are acceptable.

It also details whether someone gets a regular ballot or a provisional one. The latter is equally valid - but only if separately determined later to come from someone entitled to vote.

Attorney General Terry Goddard said that is a more cumbersome procedure that will slow up the process and possibly discourage people from voting. And Goddard, who did not get a copy of Brewer's proposal until Friday, said he needs to review it before he gives his legally required approval.

But Brewer said her plan complies with a verbal agreement she reached with Goddard more than a month ago. And Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, who helped craft Proposition 200, said if Goddard does not approve this plan, he and other supporters of the initiative will sue.

State law requires any change in voting procedure proposed by the secretary of state to be approved by not only Goddard, but also the governor. And Brewer is entitled to propose something on her own.

But Goddard, a Democrat, said Brewer, a Republican, seems more interested in confrontation than cooperation.

Brewer, however, said it is Goddard who is not cooperating with voters who approved Proposition 200. "It is not our job as elected officials to second guess the will of the people," she said.

One form of photo ID would be enough to get a ballot - provided it is on the official list.

Acceptable forms of election-day ID

 Acceptable identification under the proposal by Secretary of State Jan Brewer:

ID with photograph, name and address:

 Valid Arizona driver's license.

 Valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.

 Tribal enrollment card or other tribal identification.

 Valid U.S. federal, state or local government identification card.

 ID without a photograph but with name and address (two required):

 Utility bill dated within 90 days.

 Bank or credit union statement within 90 days.

 Valid Arizona vehicle registration.

 Indian census card,

 Property-tax statement from voter's residence

 Tribal enrollment card or other tribal identification.

 Vehicle insurance card.

 Recorder's certificate of registration.

 Valid U.S. federal, state or local government identification card, including a voter registration card issued by the county recorder.

Source: Secretary of State's Office


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; prop200; voterid
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1 posted on 08/13/2005 5:27:59 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; janetgreen; DOIEllery

Prop 200 Ping.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 5:28:45 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
No ID equals no vote

That's the way it ought to be.

3 posted on 08/13/2005 5:35:45 AM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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To: Borax Queen

Let's see. They drive to the polling place but don't/can't shoe ID? Sounds like fraud to me.

Oh, so they took public transportation because they have no driver's license. How about the EBT card? I wonder if that will work?

In our state you just walk up, state a name (any name on the roles) and they hand you a voting ballot. The only problem would be if that name voted early (one stop voting) or got to the polling place before you.

Thats why I go real early. I would hate to show up and find out that I had just voted.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 5:35:49 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: PeteB570
Thats why I go real early. I would hate to show up and find out that I had just voted.

lol! I'm always afraid of that too. I walk to the polls but I always bring my driver's license. We'll see if this Fall they ask me for it (I'm in AZ).

5 posted on 08/13/2005 5:40:04 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
"Acceptable forms of election-day ID � Tribal enrollment card or other tribal identification." Ward Churchill better hope this doesn't work it's way to Colorado.
6 posted on 08/13/2005 5:41:42 AM PDT by NathanBookman (Will this hurt Bush's re-election chances?)
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To: NathanBookman

Heh heh heh!


7 posted on 08/13/2005 5:45:02 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

Maybe I'm just ignorant. How is a utility bill a form of identification?


8 posted on 08/13/2005 6:17:56 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Borax Queen

Who could ever guess that the obstructionist, Goddard, is a Donk? Whatdayaknow...


9 posted on 08/13/2005 6:19:55 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: Borax Queen

Prop 200 won by 11%. It was not even close. If the Donks want to marry themselves to the losing side of a 55.5-44.5% split, I say we let them...


10 posted on 08/13/2005 6:25:22 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: Borax Queen

all you need is a freaking utility bill to vote !?!

what is WRONG with this country.

I own over 20 rental properties.... I guess I can vote 20 times.


11 posted on 08/13/2005 6:26:34 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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...a more cumbersome procedure that will slow up the process and possibly discourage people from voting.

In my experience, the voting line only moves as fast as the actual in-the-booth voting process. They could add another minute or two to the checking-in process without affecting the speed of the line. Not that showing ID would take more than 10 seconds.

12 posted on 08/13/2005 6:30:21 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Some assembly required.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2

Good grief it is sofreaking simple, you shouldn't be able to vote unless you present a valid voter registration card.

You shouldn't be able to get a valid voter registration card without proving:

1. Your US citizenship
2. Your primary place of residency

What is so freaking tuff about that!

Man this ticks me off.

ANYONE can have a freaking utility bill !!!! A utility bill DOESN"T constitute a right to vote!!!!!

What is with these people.


13 posted on 08/13/2005 6:33:26 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Borax Queen

good


14 posted on 08/13/2005 6:34:39 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Borax Queen

Well hello! How about trying to open a checking account or cash a check, board an airplane, charge anything, and the list goes on, without producing a photo ID. Fraud is the answer Democrats don't want photo ID's required for voting. It would cut into their "loser margins."


15 posted on 08/13/2005 6:41:47 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Borax Queen
"Voters who produce no ID will not be provided a ballot and will be instructed to return with an appropriate identification," Brewer said.

Sounds like a really good idea to me

16 posted on 08/13/2005 6:44:38 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When I walk into Sanctuary the band plays "Sweet Home Alabama")
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To: Texas_Conservative2

Well, you have to be on list of registered voters too


17 posted on 08/13/2005 6:46:33 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Borax Queen

why not PASSPORT?


18 posted on 08/13/2005 6:46:57 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Borax Queen

I you are too lazy, too stupid to get a proper ID then you shouldn't be allowed to vote


19 posted on 08/13/2005 6:48:54 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: JRios1968

I noticed items on the list that were not photo IDs. That's crazy. In Georgia, we just enacted a law that says photo IDs only for voting. Of course, the looney left is up in arms.


20 posted on 08/13/2005 6:57:15 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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