9/11 PANEL: ATTA TALE WAS BUM TIP

NY Post ^ | 8/13/05 | DEBORAH ORIN

[Labyrinthos]

Thanks and Thanks. I forgot about the Senate's delay in appointing Ashcroft. If I recall correctly, the Senate finally approved him in July. I suspect that Clintoon holdovers continued to run the show until Ashcroft was firmly in place.

[TomGuy]

The Cover-up Commission was charged with covering up the cover-ups.

Gorelick and Benvenista were not on the Commission because thy didn't have anything else to do during that time. They were on the Commission to ensure that the content and direction did not land on the Clinton Administration.

What other investigative bodies would have a person who was instrumental in creating the situation as one of the investigators?

Gorelick was former CIA and former Deputy Attorney General under Clinton. Her fingerprints are on The Wall between agencies, the investigation of TWA800, possibly on the phone call to FBI in OKC after the Murrah bombing instructing them to drop any investigation into foreign terrorism involvement in Murrah, etc.

Benvenista was one of Clintons personal/business attorneys.

Surprisingly, Sandy Bergler didn't get a seat on the Cover-up Commission, but he was busy elsewhere -- at the National Archive stealing and destroying classified documents [for which, it appears, he will only get a slap on the wrist, a little fine and a suspension of the NSA clearance for 3 years. Martha Stewart got worse punishment and her crime was lying to the investigators.].

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Check the FR archives during the Commission hearings. Numerous threads showed the massive numbers of complaints the Committee Chairs received against Gorelick and her being on the Committee. But she got to stay. The Commission was intended to whitewash; it was a farce from the start; it was supposed to answer a few questions, cover-up and limit fingerpointing.

I look for the same to happen with this follow-up by Weldon. He might get a few hearings, and then the politicians (both parties, Executive Branch and Legislative Branch) will 'reach a conclusion' and relegate (aka, whitewash) the issue to the toiletbowl of historical obscurity---for the sake of National Security, of course.

[trebb]

and claimed the Navy man wasn't "sufficiently credible."

Let's face it, the Commissionwanted a foo-foo, feel-good report that could make recommendations that told Bush to do a lot of things he was already doing. They did not want the absolute truth to come out because Hitlery hasn't had her time having sexual encounters in ther Oval Office.

[combat_boots]

"What else is the commission covering up?"

TESTIMONY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS! MANSOOR IJAZ’s, for example!

[johnny7]

This is making me sick to my stomach.

It's not stupidity... it's deliberate indifference.

[dennisw]

I was dead wrong about these Gubbermint trough feeders. I agree with your every word after I looked into it

[cynicom]

The military has been in the "intelligence" (spy) business since its inception. There is a reason for that, namely, they cannot trust civilian agencies to give them unfiltered intelligence.

[frankiep]

Same thoughts here.

And I'm willing to bet some serious money that the Bush administration, Congress, or anyone else for that matter will do a single thing to hold the perppetrators responsible. I cannot remember a time when I was more disgusted with every single elected official in our government.

[frankiep]

I meant to say will not do a single thing

[SeaBiscuit]

"Ever wonder how we knew that the 19 hijackers were responsible for 9/11 within hours of the attacks?"

Good point and YES! And now we know why. I suspect that early on that the rats were trying to hide their culpability and Clinton's failure to deal with Terrorists, and at the same time key rats of the 9/11 Commission were primarily trying to derail GWB's run for a 2nd term by hiding info such as this.

[TomGuy]

Something that has bothered me:

Remember back to Ashcroft's appearance before the Commission. Ashcroft was the #1 target of the Left/Dems at that time, so the Dems on the Committee were really gunning for him. Their questioning was very antagonistic toward the AG.

Gorelick was one of the most antagonistic. During her questioning, almost berating, it was as if Ashcroft had had enough. He made mention of the Gorelick memo (classified) and told the Committee he would de-classify the memo if the Committee really wanted to be serious.

Memo? Secret memo? Of course, the MSM went wild. Ashcroft did read parts of the documentation that revealed Gorelick's involvement in 'The Wall'. That broke the dam on 'The Wall'. Of course, since it pointed right into the heart of the Clinton Justice Department, the MSM quickly went silent.

Gorelick went silent.

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What bothered me was the reaction of GWB to Ashcoft's revelation of Gorelick and The Wall. Remember that GWB demands loyalty from his underlings. So, did GWB criticize Gorelick? No. Did GWB criticize x42? No. Did GWB criticize Tenet? No. Who did GWB criticize? Ashcroft. His own AG.

Not many picked up on GWB's treatment of Ashcroft. It was anything but 'team loyalty'. I always felt that one experience was instrumental in Ashcroft bowing out at the end of GWB's first term.

[OrioleFan]

I want to know why Gorelick, the woman responsible for The Wall, was put in charge of looking at all the information coming in to the 9/11 Commission and deciding what got disseminated to the full Commission.

I didn't know this. WOW! She should go to jail for this and the Wall.

[Tarheel]

Does anyone remember how quickly the ID on the 9/11 guys came about? I recall it was pretty quick.

[Peach]

Please let me know if you get an answer: I seem to recall it was less than 24 hours after the attacks.

[iconoclast]

Typical BS gubmint coverup.

You cover my a$$, I'll cover yours.

BTW, heard of any firings yet?

[Tarheel]

Remember how quickly we saw the video tape at the airport that had Atta on it--how did they pull it that fast if they d/n know who they were looking for. It is not as though he had a sign around his neck that said --Look at Me , I'm Atta!

[TomGuy]

IIRC, it was within hours of the first attack at the WTC when some of the names of the hijackers started to emerge.

Probably, the live thread during that day might show the timeframe. [I don't have a link to that live thread and have no idea how to search back to find it.]

[mikegi]

Please let me know if you get an answer: I seem to recall it was less than 24 hours after the attacks.

The stewardesses on the flights gave the seat numbers of the hijackers to HQ. The hijackers used their real names for ticketing, etc. Many of them were already known by the CIA and other agencies.

[mewzilla]

What else is the commission covering up?

Why did Bubba feel the need to bring Bruce Lindsey?

[Bigh4u2]

""The commission's staff concluded that the officer's account was not sufficiently reliable to warrant revision of the report or further investigation."

What they really are saying is "Although the information turned out to be TRUE, we ignored it because it would have made BJ and Hillary look bad and GW Bush look good."

There. That's better.