I'm quite proud to have our pasty-white likeness portrayed in an athletic logo.
Posted on 08/12/2005 11:03:16 PM PDT by Sgt.Po-Po
An Open Letter to the NCAA:
The quiet serenity of our beautiful campus was disturbed early August 5 by news reports that the NCAA had decided to address the Indian nickname issue. The early reports were unclear; the words mascot, nickname, and logo were used interchangeably, and the loaded words “abusive” and “hostile” were invoked without definition and without any real clear idea as to how they were being applied. We don’t have a mascot, and our logo was designed by a very well-respected American Indian artist. We couldn’t imagine that these reports would apply to us.
Later, we saw the full release. While it looked like the action taken by the NCAA was insulting, and a flagrant abuse of power, we knew that good, well-meaning people were involved in the decision and we wanted to consider our reaction carefully.
We were initially stunned by the charge “abusive” and “hostile,” and then angry. We reflected and gave it a week before drafting this response. I must admit to sinking at one point during the past week to the notion that my Association was guilty of “political correctness run amok” as suggested by some papers.
We want to file an appeal, but first we need to know the basis for your decisions. We need the answers to some questions first, in other words.
I do not wish to take up the issue, here, of any absolute or general “correctness” of using American Indian imagery. Those on both sides of the issue have long ago made up their minds, and no amount of talking over many years seems to have moved anyone from one side of the issue to the other. Suffice it to say, some choose to be insulted by the use of these terms; others are befuddled by this reaction to what they consider to be an honor. What I would like to take up here is a matter of the appropriateness and legality of the NCAA’s action. I mean to take up the issue of whether the NCAA has gone over the edge and out of bounds in the action announced on Friday.
Is it the use of Indian names, images, and/or mascots to which you are opposed? If it is all of the above, which logos, images, and mascots do you indict by your announcement? Is it only certain ones? As I said, a very respected Indian artist designed and created a logo for the University. The logo is not unlike those found on United States coins and North Dakota highway patrol cars and highway signs. So we can’t imagine that the use of this image is “abusive” or “hostile” in any sense of these words.
Is it the use of the names of tribes that you find hostile and abusive?
Not long ago I took a trip to make a proposal to establish an epidemiological program to support American Indian health throughout the Upper Great Plains. On this trip I left a state called North Dakota. (Dakota is one of the names the indigenous people of this region actually call themselves.) I flew over South Dakota, crossing the Sioux River several times, and finally landed in Sioux City, Iowa, just south of Sioux Falls, South Dakota. The airplane in which I traveled that day was called a Cheyenne.
I think you should find my confusion here understandable, since obviously if we were to call our teams “The Dakotans,” we would actually be in more direct violation of what apparently you are trying to establish as a rule, even though this is the name of our state. This situation, of course, is not unlike that faced by our sister institution in Illinois.
Is it only when some well-meaning people object to the use of the names of tribes? If so, what standard did you use to decide where the line from acceptable to “hostile” and “abusive” is crossed? We note that you exempted a school with a certain percentage of American Indian students. We have more than 400 American Indian students here. Who decided that a certain percentage was okay, but our percentage was not? Where is the line between okay and hostile/abusive?
We have two Sioux tribes based here in North Dakota. One has, in fact, objected to our use of the name, “Sioux,” applied to our sports teams. The other said it was okay, provided that we took steps to ensure that some good comes of it, in educating people and students about the cultural heritage of this region. This mix of opinions is apparently not unlike that faced by our sister institution in Florida.
read more at: http://www.und.edu/president/html/statements/NCAAletter.html
Just disband the idiotic NCAA and be done with it. Fire every last stinking one of those idiots and ignore them and start a new organization.
This bullshit needs to stop now.
Here is a way to email Myles Brand.
Tell this politically correct idiot what you think.
http://www.ncaa.org/cgi-bin/staffmailform2.pl?id=mbrand@ncaa.org">http://www.ncaa.org/cgi-bin/staffmailform2.pl?id=mbrand@ncaa.org&name=Myles+Brand
better copy and paste that link, didn't quite do what I wanted it to do
fire Miles Brand.
Nope. Won't work. Rhode Island is named after some red chicken. So the PC Police and PETA will get their knickers twisted. haha
I'm sure Disney will be attacked by someone representing Pirates and talking mice. By the way, why doesn't D.Duck wear pants?
What kind of name is Brand? Decendent of people who tortured animals with strage shaped burn marks?
http://www.und.edu/president/html/statements/NCAAletter.html
I'm quite proud to have our pasty-white likeness portrayed in an athletic logo.
The Redskins have had lawsuit after lawsuit filed against them because of the teams name. Last I hear, some "head-up-his-rear-end" circuit judge told the Skins they had to change it.
Nice butt-whippin' to those who richly deserve it.
Good job, sir.
Before its all over mascots will be fuzzy dots.
Like the Austin High Maroons.
Their mascot is a fuzzy maroon dot... with legs
This is the key. Please, please let some big schools (Florida???) tell the NCAA where to get off the bus. It really is time for a compeing league to begin.
That translation is, itself, somewhat "politically correct".
Actually, Oklahoma comes from the Ponca language and a full translation is "Land of red dirt and bad water, where red man get sick and die".
ANuone know how the NCAA is funded?
Weren't they an organization made up of member colleges to make rules for sports uniform for all games? Just guessing here.
It would be interesting if their funding shrunk real fast.
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