Posted on 08/12/2005 9:40:02 PM PDT by george76
In its latest response to the report that it failed to account for the Able Danger report, the 9/11 Commission spokesman indicates the report was inconsistent with the INS records as to the date of Atta's entry into the US.
Of course, the very idea of considering INS entry records dispositive is itself a howler to anyone who pays attention.Aside from the sloppiness of the controls at our borders and the inadequacy of the INS' record keeping, we know that Atta's April 2001 entry upon which the Commission apparently relies, is itself mysterious. He is recorded as having entered twice on the same day at the same entry point under two different visa numbers.
The mystery of Atta's doppelganger remains unresolved.
The INS inspector general noted in his report that Atta appeared to have entered the US twice on January 10th 20001. That is because Atta had been given two separate admission numbers--- 68653985709, expiring 9/10/01, and 10847166009 expiring July 9th (INS report, p.48).
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Wow, the 9-11 Commission is amateur hour. They can't invent even lame excuses.
Interesting that his expiration date was the day before the attack.
Wonder if the papers that Sandy Berger stuck in his pants could shed any light on this subject?
Able Danger data mining can only tell when an ID or credit card was used, NOT who used it. This does NOT take away from the value of Able Danger information, but it is important to understand this twist.
C5
You're exactly right. One legit ID is passed around (copied) for use by the hundreds. Not exaggerating either.
By the same token, the 9/11 commission insists that Atta could not possibly have been meeting with al-Ani in Prague because, at about the same time, his cell phone was used to make a call in Florida.
Exactly! On the one hand they refuse to credit Czech intelligence and the evidence that Spanish AQ gave Atta a fake visa to go to Prague because his cellphone was used in Florida on that date while on the other they ignore Able Danger and the Dof Agriculture employee who says she met with Atta in Florida in April or May of 2000 before the INS records him entering the country.
Captain's Quarters is on this like paint with some important new information.http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005201.php
Exactly. The classic example.
bttt
It boggles the mind to wonder how many times IDs are passed back over the fence, to allow more and more illegals to "legally" cross into the USA.
For example, uncommon spices they frequently purchase, unusual soaps which appear on the Von's supermarket account, strange use of phone cards, mini-storage units at the same address, people coming together in cities with no record of their habitation. This is just a fingernail clipping of the landfill of information "brilliant data mining" sifts and collates, looking for connections adding up to a terror cell.
No one set of factoids is damning, a "smoking gun." This is where folks are misunderstanding things like the FBI looking at library records. The library records are not useful for one person and one book, but as part of the vast constellation of data points which in aggregate make up the picture of a terror cell.
Little or none of the data mined information is used in a conventional evidenciary manner. The goal is to ID possible terror cells, and then apply old fashioned surveillance techniques to find the confirmational evidence, and go if for the arrest, or for the kill.
Well, when you consider one of the commissioners had a key part in making sure this information never reached the FBI thanks to her "Gorelick Wall" policy, you can't expect the panel to be much more than a lame white wash drowning with incompetence.
I agree, their excuse is beyond lame and doesn't even rate "fig leaf" status.
I'm reminded of the technique of cutting off a tracking collar from an animal and hanging it on the back end of an 18 wheel truck. It would be dead simple to pass "terrorist" ids to ignorant individuals with permission to use them as a diversionary tactic.
Which makes the dismantling of HUMAN intelligence under the Clinton regime all that more despicable.
I just don't understand why Able Danger is so earth shattering. I'm reading thousands of details here on FR and I just can't make the pieces come together in a coherent picture.
Why is the Clinton administration 'hung' with this information when they skated on not taking Bin Laden when the Sudan offered him?
Some of us though, have been getting some fairly coherent pictures on several fronts.
An example of putting little pieces together is the Niger flap thing and the CBS TANG forgeries that Buckhead and another web site helped expose.
Little details have revealed when the press has been pulling our leg or hasn't revealed all it knows about people it cites as sources.
Lots of little reports reveal reporters' sources hammering in "talking points" more easily than if you read just one report. If you only read one report on an event you won't see the talking point and won't know you're emotions are being manipulated.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.