WORST PRESIDENT EVER (vote)

8/12/2005

[hang 'em]

Who is/was the WORST U.S. PRESIDENT EVER? Carter? Clinton? Make your choice and state your reasons.

[scottywr]

Clintoon is the worst ever, I remember being deployed in Thailand and the only news we could get was the BBC, and they would openly laugh at how inept his administration was (I'll bet that never got reported over here). He sold us down the river to China, Got 18 American Rangers killed in Somalia (they were begging for armor but that dipsh$t Aspen though he knew better, did nothing after the attack on the USS Cole, did nothing after the attempt on Bush Sr's life, he let North Korea run amok with their nuke program, He let Iraq kick the inspectors out so they could do a very good job of hiding WMD's, the list goes on.
Carter is number two but a distant second, he was just a buffoon.

[Richard-SIA]

FDR's destruction of the constitution via intimidating SCOTUS, and the sad result, has been forgotten already?

America dodged a bullet when that three term socialist died!

Klinton and Kartuh could never have worked their evil if FDR had not opened the way for them.

[Luke21]

Gerald Ford. Never would have had Carter with the king of the RINO's in power.

[The Red Zone]

at how inept his administration was

Clinton was quite ept, in terms of scratching the backs of those who had scratched his.

[spinestein]

Sorry, but for about the last decade now I find myself in agreement with Milton Friedman and his economic theories.

[rcocean]

Good Post.

Funny, I never heard about Hoot Smalley "causing" the great depresssion until the 1980's when the "no borders/no trade barriers" fanatics started to crank out their propaganda. Given the small percentage of US GNP that was involved in foreign trade in the 1930s it wasn't important.

I'd like someone to tell me how foriegn trade increased from 1938 to 1948. I don't think it was a lot, even though we were still in the depression in 1938, and out of it in 1948.

If trade barriers started depressions, why did Japan become rich? They have never believed in "free trade".

[rcocean]

"He was the worst, ending the era of limited, Constitutional govermnent."

I think I understand your point, but would you get rid of social security, the SEC, the minimum wage, the national park service, and Federal Aid for bridges/roads/Highways, etc?

[MikefromOhio]

And I have one question, exactly where are you getting your information that says that blacks were forcibly removed from their land.

He doesn't have any. You called him out right and good though....

[AlexW]

Toss up for me too...

Clinton was absorbed with himself and did not really know what was going on around the world.
He rode on the crest of the Internet boom, so only time will tell as to the damage he caused via Chinese connections.

Carter was a total buffoon and as of now, gets my vote as the worst president, at least in my lifetime of 60 years.

[Non-Sequitur]

It was not actions of the Confederacy that began the war, but rather, inaction of the Union, specifically, Fort Sumter was sovreign Confederate territory, The C.S.A kindly asked the Union to remove their garrison from our territory.

Sumter was a U.S. fort build on territory deeded to it by the legislature of the state of South Carolina. What, exactly, caused it to automatically become 'sovereign confederate territory' without treaty or compensation?

[Petronski]

Oh, and as another Freeper points out, his daughter is butt-ugly.

WTF does that have to do with it?

Don't be an idiot.

[Non-Sequitur]

The real start of the war is so plain a blind man should be able to see it. When Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers there was no doubt what they were for. No one thought the South was going to attack the North. Fort Sumpter was in Charleston harbor, not Boston.

And when Jefferson Davis and the confederate congress authorized raising an army of 100,000 men a month before the attack on Sumter then what were they for? The start of the war was the bombardment of Sumter, the moment when the south made it clear that they were not, and had never been interested in a peaceful solution.

[Non-Sequitur]

They broke that contract which is perfectly legal.

How did they do that?

[bad company]

This is my first try at a post reply

That was actually your second. Your first post was to congressmanbillybob back in jan 2003. You have got to be the quietest FReeper in history.

[EmilyGeiger]

Thanks. Yes I guess you're right. Maybe the media keeps that myth floating to make FDR seem even more compassionate. The evil republican sat back on his laurels while the kind democrat did everything to save the poor starving children. See how bad the media is? And I fell for it! :) I am going to go stand in the corner now.

[iconoclast]

Just because he hasn't been found doesn't mean he's being ignored;

After OBL was chased into Pakistan:

A) We stopped pursuing him

B) We chose to attack a nation two countries west of Pakistan and have proceeded to direct all efforts there for the last two years+ (for no believable reason!).

What possible reason could he have for ignoring him?

Historians will be asking that question for the next fifty years.

[Junior]

Ulysses S. Grant.

[kittymyrib]

FDR...he was too sick to lead and too greedy to give up power, resulting in his decision to let the USSR kill millions and enslave other millions during 40 years of Communist tyranny. Domestically, he started the dependency on government that has enslaved millions of our own citizens and kept them from being all they could be. He was an evil despot....

[WillMalven]

I suggest you go back and read Marx. Marx was not a free trader, he was the antithesis of a free trader.

"[The Bourgeoisie] has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom -- Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation."

"The abolition of bourgeois individuality, bourgeois independence, and bourgeois freedom is undoubtedly aimed at.

By freedom is meant, under the present bourgeois conditions of production, free trade, free selling and buying."

Karl Marx
Frederick Engels
The Communist Manifesto