Truman - For not going nuclear on Moscow and Peking after WWII to get rid of Communism for good.
Or was the cold war good for business?
No communism no Carter.
Posted on 08/12/2005 3:25:54 PM PDT by hang 'em
We're all familiar with situations when goverments or regimes change and enclaves remain as they are. Cuban Communists demanded Guantanamo. Chinese Communists demanded Hong Kong. Spain demanded Gibraltar. India seized Goa. But the nations that held such fortifications insisted on their rights under international law and have been justified in doing so. Unionists could make an excellent legal case for control of Sumter. In any case, it looks really stupid and self-defeating for South Carolina to assert a radical notion of sovereignty that could only lead to trouble.
Read some of the writings from Calhoun before the war, Calhoun was still passionately pushing the same ideals that had led him to resign from the Jackson administration all those years.
I concur with your FDR vote. It took him 12 years and a World War to set the economy right. Not too mention shredding states rights and sending us on the path to socialism
The Northern troops called themselves Union as that is what they were fighting for. They didn't call themselves liberators or the abolitionists.
Same for the Confederacy. They were fighting to establish a new nation based on local sovereignty. That is why they called themselves Confederates.
The real start of the war is so plain a blind man should be able to see it. When Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers there was no doubt what they were for. No one thought the South was going to attack the North. Fort Sumpter was in Charleston harbor, not Boston.
Sir, answer me one question.
Where in the Constitution does it state that states that enter the Union are forever bound in the Union?
I am suprised more freepers have not said that. Dont forget The federal reserve. He also got us into WWI after being reelected on a I wont platform. He was a democrat and a racist and some of his policies may have triggered the great depression.
Exactly.
Warren G. Harding was the Bill Clinton of his day tenfold with Florence Kling Harding as Hillary. He was a corrupt political boss in Marion. Everything from scandal in the Veterans' Bureau, the Interior Dept and Justice (Ring a bell?) His attorney general was brought before the bar and on and on.
I don't know many of the most conservative of Republicans who would deny the overall corruption of Harding
I thought that is what the history books used to say.
"Pierce: Did nothing at all including nothing about upcoming civil war"
Well, he is the third great-uncle of Barbara Pierce Bush, and being a Democrat, I guess we can say he was that "crazy uncle they kept in the attic."
Truman - For not going nuclear on Moscow and Peking after WWII to get rid of Communism for good.
Or was the cold war good for business?
No communism no Carter.
I don't want to hijack the thread completely from people who want to discuss other things, but the Constitution does declare that it is the supreme authority in the land.
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." U.S. Const. art. VI, Paragraph 2
Consequently if you want to "secede" or sever your connection to the rest of the country you have to do so at the federal level, by changing the federal laws or the Constitition. That's pretty clear, isn't it? If it isn't -- if there's disagreement -- that's all the more reason to make sure that all concerned parties are in agreement, rather than strike off on your own.
Under a tyranny, you may have the right to rebel and get out however you can, but if you live in a constitutional republic with free and democratic institutions, you work within them for change. It's an old debate that won't be resolved tonight.
Looks like I'm the one who needs to take History 101.
I'm was actually only a few credits away from a PHD in History, but the private sector beckoned. ;-)
1. FDR - America's first Communist President
2. Clinton
3. Jimmah "F-the Shah" Carter
4. LBJ - FDR was first, but he perfected Communism
That's lapel and Robert Ferrell not Farrell
What a choice.
Hmmm Clinton?,
Carter?
LBJ?
Hmm. All in my lifetime. All Dems. All bad. Really bad.
I'll go with LBJ.
Carter was a person of good intentions
Clinton was a person of bad intentions
Clinton was the worst person to be a president. He abused his power and the trust even his own party gave him; and we may all pay for it.
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