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Russia’s chief rabbi predicts the imminent coming of a Messiah
Interfax ^ | 09 August 2005

Posted on 08/12/2005 9:49:49 AM PDT by jb6

Moscow, August 9, Interfax - Russia’s Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar believes the Earth will soon see the coming a Messiah to reward everyone according to his deserts.

‘We know that he (Messiah - IF) is very near at hand, but he needs not only to be born but also to come. The Messiah may well have been born already, but unless he is ordered by God he cannot reveal himself with God’s help and change the world for the better’, the rabbi said in an interview published by the Gazeta daily on Tuesday.

Lazar explained this assumptions about the imminent coming of a Messiah by the fact that “the world today is in a state described by our sages as ‘hevley mashiah’, that is, labour that precedes the coming of a Messiah’.

‘It is a time’, he explained, ‘when many good things are created in the world and the progress of science and technology has made it possible to solve many human problems, to overcome diseases, famine, etc., on one hand. On the other hand, it is for the first time since God created human beings that humans have taken hold of such means of destruction that the whole of our race and even the globe itself can be destroyed instantly’.

‘We are living on the verge of history; it can be felt everywhere’, Rabbi Lazar is convinced. Recalling the comparison made by philosopher Maimonides who likened the world to scales, Lazar assumed that ‘perhaps God is waiting for only one deed to be put on the good scale to order the Messiah to reveal himself’.

Speaking about it, Russia’s chief rabbi called upon everyone ‘to add this good deed as one’s contribution may prove decisive’.


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KEYWORDS: christ; firstcomming; jewish; jews; messiah; moshiach; postedinwrongforum; religion; russia; russianjews; secondcoming
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To: paulat

"Lighten up, Francis."


81 posted on 08/12/2005 3:46:23 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: jb6

The Messiah came, and Is, and always will Be. Hallelujah! :-)


82 posted on 08/12/2005 3:51:05 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: Alexander Rubin
"The way I see it, I will love G-d, obey his laws as best I can, love my family and my country, work hard and try to build a better world, and hope for the best. I will love and respect those who worship my G-d in their own way, for we're all brothers made in the image of G-d, and that's all I can do."

And still, some will call you deluded. We should all be so deluded, friend

83 posted on 08/12/2005 3:53:25 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: newfreep
"uhhhh, it's spelled "G-d" without the hyphen."

There is a traditional view that avoids spelling it where it will be discarded so that one may observe the commandment about not taking the name in vain.

84 posted on 08/12/2005 3:55:24 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Revolting cat!

More like a couple of hundred.


85 posted on 08/12/2005 3:55:56 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandry wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Amen to that!


For those with a sense of humor:

The Messiah is coming! Everone look busy.

or how about:

The Messiah is coming! Someone get Him a towel!

(OK, that was bad, I hope it doesn't earn me a break from posting...)


86 posted on 08/12/2005 3:59:45 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The messiah of Christianity (aka Jesus) is claimed by Christianity to be the same as YHVH. The trinitarian tradition is something that most Christians are not going to question or challenge. Meanwhile, Jews hold on to the Shema as well they should.


87 posted on 08/12/2005 4:10:28 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Wisely investing in quality tin foil wardrobe basics since 1998)
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To: fish hawk
Just about every religion but Christianity believes that being "good" and doing "good deeds" will get you into God's graces. I guess it's too hard for them to believe that it is a free gift.

A few months ago, my wife and I had a bunch of bills come due at the same time without the money to cover them all. I was embarrassed to do it, but I had to ask my parents for some money to tide us over, which my mother said she'd give us.

A few minutes later, my father called back. My parents needed some furniture moved and he'd pay my wife and me more than we'd asked for if we moved it for them. It really wasn't that big a deal, but it allowed me the dignity of earning the money.

As with my temporal parents, so with the Heavenly Parent. I would far rather earn my way into His good graces. I would be ashamed to have it handed to me as a gift.

88 posted on 08/12/2005 4:22:11 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Alexander Rubin

I once heard a little story about a Christian and a Jew welcoming the messiah to Jerusalem. question #1 - is this your first visit to our fair city...


89 posted on 08/12/2005 4:23:28 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: jb6

I expect the Messiah will come. I just don't expect it to happen soon.... More to the point, I don't believe in conducting my life, as if it will happen soon.


90 posted on 08/12/2005 4:23:55 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
I once heard a little story about a Christian and a Jew welcoming the messiah to Jerusalem. question #1 - is this your first visit to our fair city...

My best friend in middle school, whose father was a pastor, tried to get me to convert to Christianity. That was basically the deal I made with him.

91 posted on 08/12/2005 4:25:56 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
You're point of view is valid and makes sense. I was speaking from a scriptural view as Paul teaches about the gift of grace etc. Works are important(according to scripture) but not THE ticket. Aloha my FRiend
92 posted on 08/12/2005 4:31:19 PM PDT by fish hawk (hollow points were made to hold pig lard)
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93 posted on 08/12/2005 4:31:57 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: familyop
I am encouraged by your dedication to studying the word of the Lord.

Deu 4:29 But from there you will seek the Lord your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Luk 11:9 So I say to you, ask and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

94 posted on 08/12/2005 6:00:51 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod
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To: Esther Ruth

If anyone wants to look at these... these are Old Testament verses that Christians believe Jesus fulfilled and then the Christian New Testament verses that go with them.


Since we are talking about the coming of the Messiah...
324 Messianic Prophecies
http://www.hopeofisrael.net/messiah1.htm


95 posted on 08/12/2005 6:17:37 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3)
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To: sasportas
Apparantly you've never bothered to find out what Hindus believe. BTW, most of the Book of Proverbs was translated in about the First Century CE into material that ended up in their holy text called the Bhagavadgita.

Their own Messiah stories are quite complex and HAPPENED IN THE PAST, ergo, your little rant about the Anti-Christ already happened and is history ~ you are about 2.5 millenia too late as it were!

Their Noah stories are also quite interesting ~ yes, they have Noah, or as he is more properly named, Ma-Nu. Odds are you think of the Noah story as just one of those things ~

I doubt I'm falling for anything here, but your ignorance of what a billion people who are allied to us in our war against terrorism is appalling.

96 posted on 08/12/2005 7:21:16 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: jb6

His Messiah is coming but ours has already been here and is expected back. I hope it is shortly.


97 posted on 08/12/2005 7:24:08 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: muawiyah

muawiyah, at it again, spewing more twisted leftist theology. No need wasting time and bandwidth on it. Twist the scripture to your own destruction.


99 posted on 08/12/2005 7:44:11 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
Hmmm ~ now we have some guy coming in who I don't know from Adam and he claims that references to Hindus are "leftwing".

Now who would do that other than various Moslem fanatics?

Either you and I are simply talking about totally different things, or you are a mole.

So, which is it?

100 posted on 08/12/2005 7:53:22 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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