Posted on 08/12/2005 2:03:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
A controversial NCAA decision restricting Florida State University's use of an American Indian mascot was based on incomplete information and will be reconsidered, a top NCAA official said Thursday.
Walter Harrison, who chairs the committee that approved a policy directed at 18 schools with "hostile and abusive" American Indian mascots, said FSU has "good grounds" to appeal.
Among the reasons, he said, are that the NCAA Executive Committee thought the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma opposed FSU's use of the Seminole image as a mascot.
That was based partly on letters the committee received from David Narcomey, a member of the General Council of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma.
But Narcomey was not authorized to speak on behalf of the tribal nation and "misrepresented" its view, the tribe's attorney general said Thursday.
In fact, Narcomey pushed for a tribal resolution condemning the use of American Indian mascots and imagery, specifically at FSU. It was defeated last month by an 18-2 vote.
Harrison, flooded with hundreds of e-mails from FSU fans, also said Thursday he wants to better understand FSU's history with the Seminoles.
FSU has vowed to fight the NCAA decision.
Trustees voted Thursday to appeal the rule that, starting February, would bar the use of American Indian symbols at championship events. University president T.K. Wetherell has lined up powerful opposition, including Gov. Jeb Bush, and hired powerhouse lawyer Barry Richard.
"If there are appeals or attempts to change legislation, I can listen to different things," said Harrison, who is also president of the University of Hartford.
Harrison said he decided the NCAA should listen to FSU's arguments even before he discovered Thursday's news about the Oklahoma Seminoles.
But the new information won't necessarily change the outcome, he said. The Executive Committee's decision, he added, did not hinge on whether the Oklahoma group opposed FSU's use of American Indian mascots.
"I don't know how we would vote on it," Harrison said. "But it would seem to be good grounds for a waiver request."
FSU and the other 17 schools, including Illinois and Utah, can appeal to the Executive Committee or seek an amendment to the new rules. That would need the Executive Committee's blessing.
Two other members of the 19-person Executive Committee said the matter needs further review in light of the stance of the Oklahoma Seminoles.
"I think this is material new information," said committee member Arthur Kirk Jr., president of Saint Leo University in Pasco County. "It is not only new, but it is counter information from what we had earlier."
Could it have pushed FSU off the NCAA's list of 18 schools?
"I think that is a very valid question," Kirk said.
Executive Committee member Sidney McPhee, president of Middle Tennessee State University, said he also would consider the new information. He also has been swamped with e-mails from FSU boosters.
The NCAA has been studying the issue for years and, in November 2004, asked 33 schools to submit a self-evaluation about their use of American Indian mascots. A special committee developed recommendations that were considered by the Executive Committee last week.
That's when Charlotte Westerhaus, the NCAA's vice president for diversity and inclusion, told the Executive Committee that the Oklahoma Seminoles opposed the practice at FSU. She was relying on letters from Narcomey, including one dated June 1 in which he said he was crafting a resolution condemning FSU's use of the Seminole name and imagery.
"We are part of the Five Civilized Tribes Council and have joined the other four nations, the Chickasaw, the Cherokee, the Choctaw and the Creek nations, in condemning the use of American Indian sports team mascots," he wrote, according to the NCAA's Westerhaus.
Narcomey's letter did not mention that the Intertribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes passed that resolution in 2001 and that it spoke generally about derogatory images that perpetuate stereotypes. It did not name specific schools or mascots.
Nor did he mention that he sits on boards of organizations with a political agenda, including the Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism, and that he has protested at FSU in the past.
Narcomey soon became the one speaking for the 14,000 Seminoles in Oklahoma.
But he was "unauthorized" to speak on behalf of the nation and "misrepresented" its view on the issue, said Jennifer McBee, the attorney general for the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma.
McBee said the tribe has numerous students at FSU.
Narcomey, who last month was elected to another term on the General Council, didn't return a call from the Times.
Oklahoma Seminole members had contacted several newspapers saying Narcomey did not speak for the Seminole Nation, said Lee Hinkle, FSU's vice president for university relations.
NCAA's Westerhaus defended the committee's handling of the matter. "We didn't get a letter nor did we see anything in newspapers," she said.
The NCAA did not follow up with Narcomey on whether his resolution passed.
But key members of the Seminole tribes in Florida and Oklahoma apparently were not communicating either.
"We did not concoct this," Westerhaus said. "We acted in good faith and we'll continue to do so."
The NCAA provided the 18 schools with a letter Tuesday detailing how they could appeal their inclusion on the list.
Aside from being unable to host championship events, such as baseball regionals, student-athletes will be prevented from displaying "hostile and abusive" imagery on their uniforms in post-season games as of Feb. 1, 2006. Cheerleaders, dancers and band members must remove such images from their uniforms by Aug. 1, 2008.
The new policy will not affect FSU football, the school's signature sport. The NCAA doesn't control the Division I-A postseason, the bowls or league championship games watched by millions on TV.
Times researcher Carolyn Edds and staff writers Curtis Krueger and Tom Zucco contributed to this report.
....Indiana University, whose athletic teams are called "Hoosiers," escaped the NCAA's nickname ban. But Indiana's jerseys don't say "Hoosiers." They say "Indiana," which means "Land of Indians."
By the way, the NCAA is headquartered in Indianapolis -- "City of the Land of Indians." How embarrassing.
The NCAA has banned the University of North Dakota's "Fighting Sioux" nickname. "Sioux" is the name for a confederation of smaller tribes, including the Dakota. If UND removes the "hostile and abusive" "Sioux" name from its jerseys and replaces it with "North Dakota," it will still have a tribal name on its jerseys. Obviously, the NCAA executives have not thought their plan through.
The University of Oklahama's football team wears jerseys sporting the university's team nickname: Sooners. Sooners were people who illegally occupied land confiscated from the Indians. (They got there "sooner" than the law allowed.) The university's basketball team wears jerseys bearing the state name: Oklahoma. "Oklahoma" is Choctaw for "red people." Both of these names are OK, while "Seminoles," approved by the tribe, is banned. Go figure..............
Absolute morons. I want those responsible for this idiocy tarred and feathered.
Simply idiotic. PC run amok. What do they intend to do now? Take appeals on a case by case basis and make themselves look even more out of touch with reality?
I head that too. He read the article by Andrew Cline LINKED in Post#1.
I think they'd like to escape this as fast as possible.
They look the fools they are.
He is a blessing.
They're back tracking, plain and simple.
If I remember correctly, the NCAA are the same clowns who banned any games (or something like that) in any state that flies a confederate flag....which singles out South Carolina and Mississippi.
I had the show on but must have missed it during a meeting. I'll go check out his site - thanks for the tip!
"VP for diversity and inclusion".....nuff said<P.
Do we have a pic/bio of her?
Also considering that the Apalachee Indians living in Tallahassee themselves played a football-like game (buckskin, though, not pigskin) long before British or American versions, this is really one of the silliest performances by the NCAA conceivable. From the Florida Center for Instructional Technology:
The Apalachees played a ball game that was a religious exercise as well as a sport. One village would challenge another to a match, and the two teams would have up to 100 players each. They used a hard clay ball (about the size of a golf ball) covered with buckskin. Players propelled the ball with their feet toward the goal post which was a pole topped with a stuffed eagle in a nest. They played the ball game in the spring and summer, and dedicated it to the gods of rain and thunder to ensure rain for their crops.
Well, I know that as a Christian I am offended by the use of "Crusader" so will the NCAA please restrict that name. Oh, and also the Friars and the Orangemen. Stupid is a stupid does.
Next they'll be banning the use of tigers on cereal boxes.
"Heck, let's "rethink" the obtuse NCAA, which has obviously been taken over by morons."
My sentiments exactly. Does not the NCAA govern with the consent of the governed? This should be the end of them. I'm sure they could find actual problems they could work on, should they choose.
I always like to jump in and point out that NCAA really means "No Colleges are Amateurs Anymore" (for those of you from Rio Linda, it means the NCAA is really just the semi-pro leagues).
Keep yer cotton-pickin' PC hands off my Chief Illiniwek.
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