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Islam needs reform to combat jihadis: Rushdie
TIMES ONLINE ^ | August 11, 2005 | Salman Rushdie

Posted on 08/11/2005 12:19:49 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

WHEN Sir Iqbal Sacranie, head of the Muslim Council of Britain, admitted that “our own children” had perpetrated the July 7 London bombings, it was the first time in my memory that a British Muslim had accepted his community’s responsibility for outrages committed by its members. Instead of blaming US foreign policy or “Islamophobia”, Sacranie described the bombings as a “profound challenge” for the Muslim community. However, this is the same Sacranie who, in 1989, said that “Death is perhaps too easy” for the author of The Satanic Verses. Tony Blair’s decision to knight him and treat him as the acceptable face of “moderate”, “traditional” Islam is either a sign of his Government’s penchant for religious appeasement or a demonstration of how limited Mr Blair’s options really are.

Sacranie is a strong advocate of Mr Blair’s much-criticised new religious hatred Bill that will make it harder to criticise religion, and actually expects the new law to outlaw references to Islamic terrorism. He said as recently as January 13: “There is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist. This is deeply offensive. Saying Muslims are terrorists would be covered [ie, banned] by this provision.” Two weeks later his organisation boycotted a Holocaust remembrance ceremony in London, commemorating the liberation of Auschwitz 60 years ago. If Sir Iqbal Sacranie is the best Mr Blair can offer in the way of a good Muslim, we have a problem.

The Sacranie case illustrates the weakness of the Government’s strategy of relying on traditional, but essentially orthodox, Muslims to help to eradicate Islamist radicalism. Traditional Islam is a broad church that certainly includes millions of tolerant, civilised men and women, but also encompasses many whose views on women’s rights are antediluvian, who think of homosexuality as ungodly, who have little time for real freedom of expression, who routinely express anti-Semitic views, and who, in the case of the Muslim diaspora, are — it has to be said — in many ways at odds with the (Christian, Hindu, non-believing or Jewish) cultures among which they live.

In Leeds, from which several of the London bombers came, many traditional Muslims lead lives apart, inward-turned lives of near-segregation from the wider population. From such defensive, separated worlds some youngsters have indefensibly stepped across a moral line and taken up their lethal rucksacks.

The deeper alienations that lead to terrorism may have their roots in these young men’s objections to events in Iraq or elsewhere, but the closed communities of some traditional Western Muslims are places in which young men’s alienations can easily deepen. What is needed is a move beyond tradition — nothing less than a reform movement to bring the core concepts of Islam into the modern age, a Muslim Reformation to combat not only the jihadi ideologues but also the dusty, stifling seminaries of the traditionalists, throwing open the windows of the closed communities to let in much-needed fresh air.

It would be good to see governments and community leaders inside the Muslim world as well as outside it throwing their weight behind this idea, because creating and sustaining such a reform movement will require, above all, a new educational impetus whose results may take a generation to be felt, a new scholarship to replace the literalist diktats and narrow dogmatisms that plague present-day Muslim thinking.

It is high time, for starters, that Muslims were able to study the revelation of their religion as an event inside history, not supernaturally above it.

It should be a matter of intense interest to all Muslims that Islam is the only religion whose birth was recorded historically, its origins uniquely grounded not in legend but in fact. The Koran was revealed at a time of great change in the Arab world, the 7th-century shift from a matriarchal nomadic culture to an urban patriarchal system. Muhammad, as an orphan, personally suffered the difficulties of this transformation, and it is possible to read the Koran as a plea for the old matriarchal values in the new patriarchal world, a conservative plea that became revolutionary because of its appeal to all those whom the new system disenfranchised, the poor, the powerless, and, yes, the orphans.

Muhammad was also a successful merchant and heard, on his travels, the Nestorian Christians’ desert versions of Bible stories which the Koran mirrors closely (Christ, in the Koran, is born in an oasis, under a palm tree). It ought to be fascinating to Muslims everywhere to see how deeply their beloved book is a product of its place and time, and in how many ways it reflects the Prophet’s own experiences.

However, few Muslims have been permitted to study their religious book in this way. The insistence within Islam that the Koranic text is the infallible, uncreated word of God renders analytical scholarly discourse all but impossible. Why would God be influenced by the socioeconomics of 7th-century Arabia, after all? Why would the Messenger’s personal circumstances have anything to do with the Message?

The traditionalists’ refusal of history plays right into the hands of the literalist Islamofascists, allowing them to imprison Islam in their iron certainties and unchanging absolutes. If, however, the Koran were seen as a historical document, then it would be legitimate to reinterpret it to suit the new conditions of successive new ages. Laws made in the 7th century could finally give way to the needs of the 21st. The Islamic Reformation has to begin here, with an acceptance that all ideas, even sacred ones, must adapt to altered realities.

Broad-mindedness is related to tolerance; open-mindedness is the sibling of peace. This is how to take up the “profound challenge” of the bombers. Will Sir Iqbal Sacranie and his ilk agree that Islam must be modernised? That would indeed make them part of the solution. Otherwise, they’re just the “traditional” part of the problem.


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1 posted on 08/11/2005 12:19:58 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; parisa; onyx; Pro-Bush; Valin; ...

Good Read!


2 posted on 08/11/2005 12:21:21 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Conclusion: We have a problem.


3 posted on 08/11/2005 12:36:53 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: F14 Pilot

Is there such a thing as a moderate Holocaust boycotter? How about a moderate Holocaust denier? Would Winston Churchill's Great Britain give credence to the existence of Moderate Nazis?


4 posted on 08/11/2005 12:38:34 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: F14 Pilot

The Jihadis became powerful because of our allowing the death of innovation in our dependence on oil from jihadi dominated countries. We created a Department of Energy Dependence and thus allowed Jihadis to think that they had wealth and power we need not have ceded to them.


5 posted on 08/11/2005 12:43:22 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: F14 Pilot

Jihadists represent the true Islam... the only way for muslims to stop Islamic extremism is to stop being muslims themselves...


6 posted on 08/11/2005 12:44:09 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: F14 Pilot
Maybe we could get the Charles Manson interpretation of the queeran. Might not be quite as homicidal!


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7 posted on 08/11/2005 12:48:28 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: F14 Pilot
Good Read!

...by a man marked for death by his fellow Muslims. Rushdie is seen as a heretic and his words are giving comfort to the enemy.

Not much hope here I'm afraid.

Rushdie is to Muslims as Bishop Spong is to Christians ...an embarrassing joke with heretical ideas.

8 posted on 08/11/2005 12:51:46 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan

He might be an embarrassing joke but his views in the Islamic world is quiet controversial.

Remember that Islam needs to go through an "Enlightenment era" just like Christianity did back in 16-17th centuries.

Give it time!


9 posted on 08/11/2005 12:59:56 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DB

And that's the truth.


10 posted on 08/11/2005 1:01:31 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: F14 Pilot

Rushdie is a very bright and brave man.


11 posted on 08/11/2005 1:07:05 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: F14 Pilot
"Traditional Islam is a broad church that certainly includes millions of tolerant, civilised men and women,"

How does anyone know this? Was a poll or study taken of millions of 'traditional' Muslims to determine 'certainly' if they live congenial, enlightened lives, to discover if they are truly tolerant of non-Muslims, and to reveal their personal political views of the world? Where can I find the results of such a study?

Nobody, absolutely nobody, anymore dares to say something negative about a person or institution without also heaping perfunctory praise on them to 'balance' their message, and to not appear prejudiced, even if the praise is unjustified, exaggerated or uncertain. This PC insanity only serves to neutralize or subvert their primary message. PC fosters confusion and illiteracy, and blurrs every distinction between good and evil, right and wrong, black and white. It exists within an ambiguous gray scale of nothingness.

I hope I live to see the funeral of King PC. That way when I die people will be able to say, "he's dead, I pray he's with God", instead of saying, "his DNA and spirit will always be with us, as he flys on wings of serentiy into the unknown eternity, with his significant other waiting patiently for him, to meet with the god-of-his-understanding, and to finally revel in his own personal truths".

12 posted on 08/11/2005 1:21:40 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: F15Eagle

Indeed, the answer is obvious. But before this religion will be impossible to defeat and stop, our government and every peace loving country in the world should do something to check them out. And the question is, are we deporting them?, are we closing their mosques?, are we treathening them if they incite violence against us?

The answer is abvious as well.


14 posted on 08/11/2005 2:04:35 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: F15Eagle
I dont want to think about America being attacked again though, but if they do, it will bring destruction upon themselves... i dont think the American population will recognize moderate, friendly, or whatever type of muslims they are... as long as they are attached to that cult they will be deported or even murdered...

Someday the MSM and Liberals will understand this, and it will be very interesting to see all Americans ignoring political positions or stand just to have all of these muslims expelled.

16 posted on 08/11/2005 2:31:46 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: F14 Pilot
Reformation or no, there are two cultures destined for a showdown in the ME, predicted by the Bible.

There is nothing that Salmon Rushdie, or anybody else, can do to change that destiny.


BUMP

17 posted on 08/11/2005 2:46:24 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: F14 Pilot

You know this guy survived one fatwa against him....and his courage is inspiring...but I believe it is a dead end. Islam is not the religion of peace some (ie. George Bush et al) would have you believe.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4315&search=arlandson



18 posted on 08/11/2005 4:11:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Lets all play the 'Christian of European Ancestry' brand of Jihad.....its called 'THE CRUSADES')
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To: tm22721
Reformation or no, there are two cultures destined for a showdown in the ME, predicted by the Bible.

I was always expecting a showdown in the ME, but I never knew it was prophesied in the Bible. Could you please elaborate?

19 posted on 08/11/2005 4:29:31 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: liberallarry
Bright and brave indeed. So is another contemporary, VS Naipaul. He has amazing words to describe Muslims.

Anyway, Salman Rushdie has a hot girlfriend. I know it's out of topic, but I just couldn't help ;^)

20 posted on 08/11/2005 4:35:26 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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