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Did DoD lawyers blow the chance to nab Atta?
Government Security News ^ | 8/9/05 | Jacob Goodwin

Posted on 08/10/2005 4:56:36 PM PDT by philo

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To: philo
lawyers working for Special Ops decided that anyone holding a green card had to be granted essentially the same legal protections as any U.S. citizen.

Atta did not have a green card and green card holders don not have the same legal protections as U.S. Citizens. The lawyers for Special Ops should be disbarred!

41 posted on 08/10/2005 6:55:05 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: rodguy911

FR has such an impact on these type of events. Without a groundswell on FR demanding an investigation, it will be swept under the rug with minimal consequence.


42 posted on 08/10/2005 6:58:36 PM PDT by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: midogwood

As I said on the other thread, May visions of collapsing towers and falling bodies dance in their heads for eternity. At least now that the truth is out these scum can no longer hide behind their rationalizations. "I was only doing my job. I was following the law."

No you caused 3000 Americans to be murdered.


43 posted on 08/10/2005 7:00:13 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: Marine Inspector

"The lawyers for Special Ops should be disbarred!"

They should be jailed, and if we find out that Berglar was swiping documents surrounding Atta, he should get the death penalty.


44 posted on 08/10/2005 7:00:16 PM PDT by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: R W Reactionairy

Still even if they had green cards, if they were found to be in the states by LYING on their application: would you not want them to be questioned?


45 posted on 08/10/2005 7:06:26 PM PDT by thebaron512
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To: philo

In September 2000, one year before the Al Qaeda attacks of 9/11, a U.S. Army military intelligence program, known as “Able Danger,” identified a terrorist cell based in Brooklyn, NY, one of whose members was 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta, and recommended to their military superiors that the FBI be called in to “take out that cell,” according to Rep. Curt Weldon, a longtime Republican congressman from Pennsylvania who is currently vice chairman of both the House Homeland Security and House Armed Services Committees.


The recommendation to bring down that New York City cell -- in which two other Al Qaeda terrorists were also active -- was not pursued during the weeks leading up to the 2000 presidential election, said Weldon. That’s because Mohammed Atta possessed a “green card” at the time and Defense Department lawyers did not want to recommend that the FBI go after someone holding a green card, Weldon told his House colleagues last June 27 during a little-noticed speech, known as a “special order,” which he delivered on the House floor.



Who were the folks in the White House then?

THE DUMBORATS.

Funny that this didn't hightlight the 911 commission. I guess this guy didn't have a book coming out.


46 posted on 08/10/2005 7:11:49 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: mewzilla

This guy Weldon, he seems to always be around important national securtiy issues. Whats his chances for moving up to the White House. Has he served in the military? ProLife?


47 posted on 08/10/2005 7:13:29 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: philo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460271/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460536/posts


48 posted on 08/10/2005 7:13:43 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Stew Padasso
I don't think this will be swept under the rug. It's too important. Besides we already have our counterparts of the New Media on the job. Rush and Savage have already chimed in and hopefully it won't be a one day story. Heads need to roll and they need to start with Jamie Gorelick and her wall. What PC/BS I swear!!
49 posted on 08/10/2005 7:18:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Stew Padasso

"Without a groundswell on FR demanding an investigation, it will be swept under the rug with minimal consequence".

Weldon stated on FoxNews (this AM), that there are several investigations ON-GOING within the House Of Representatives. Delay is ALL over this. Sit back and watch the masters land this big-one!

LLS


50 posted on 08/10/2005 7:23:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: TomasUSMC

My hit parade of this thread so far

If David Koresh only had a green card, that regrettable incident need never have happened.

Did DoD Lawyers Miss a Chance to Nail Atta?"

No. Clintons' justice dept. would not allow it. They were too busy shipping innocent children to island prisons and just outright burning others to death to worry about terrorists.

The rank and fetid aroma of the clintons once again wafts up from the bowels of death and destruction. This air is their legacy, but unfortunately, we are the ones left to inhale it.
"Prior to joining Fannie Mae in May 1997, Gorelick was deputy attorney general of the United States, a position she assumed in March 1994. From May 1993 until she joined the Justice Department, Gorelick served as general counsel of the Department of Defense..."

And of course, that the democrats where in the White House while this happened.



51 posted on 08/10/2005 7:31:06 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I just bookmarked this one and the other one. We need to keep up the heat on this for sure.
I will be sure and bring it up Sunday. Hope others do as well.
52 posted on 08/10/2005 7:31:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: cwb

Oh, yeah...right from her biography:

"Prior to joining Fannie Mae in May 1997, Gorelick was deputy attorney general of the United States, a position she assumed in March 1994. From May 1993 until she joined the Justice Department, Gorelick served as general counsel of the Department of Defense..."

It would appear that before she got busy building her "wall" with the DOJ, she was attempting to do something similar at DoD. The Clinton's fascination with treating terrorism as a "legal matter" came right out of all this manuevering.

This was an attempt to give lawyers the final say, even when it came to military decisions. And this was further exposed when you look at those operations that were nixed because lawyers got involved. Whether it was the cancelled operation to kill UBL when a drone spotted him, or the refusal to extradite him from Sudan--supposedly because they couldn't get an indictment--these decisions were all made by lawyers.

Even this latest story was a result of Reno/Gorelick policy that refused to even LOOK at Arabs for fear of being accused of racism or profiling. And all of this was also an extension of Clinton's Mid-East Peace legacy were he didn't want to appear biased against Arabs as he dealt with Isreal and Palestine. Yet, even with all this appeasement throughout the 1990's, we were still attacked on 9/11.
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If I remember properly, wasn't Karl Rove lambasted for saying that democrats would see terrorist acts as criminal acts, but Republicans see it as an act of war?? Something to that effect. Anybody got the article?


53 posted on 08/10/2005 7:33:29 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: HitmanNY

Relax. The next few days will determine if this has legs or not. I hope it has legs, not so much to apportion blame, but to change the policy for the future.

Stay cool.

Oh, NO, we need the BLAME to come out, klintoon is responsible for multiple treasonous acts, and he needs to go to jail for it. Blame him for 911, we've got the evidence now, blame him for giving the chineee the information to hit all of America with nukes, just so he got their illegal campaine contributions....etc...etc...etc!


54 posted on 08/10/2005 7:38:00 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Ethyl
"Gorelick wall" "an attempt to give lawyers final say over military matters". Brilliant post!!Good going.
55 posted on 08/10/2005 7:38:51 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: rodguy911

I can't believe there are not a dozen threads on this on fr right now. This is the whole ball game. The rats have been caught with their PC, BS mentality causing 911. It does not get any more culpable than that. Someone needs to hang.

Let me name a few..........bill klintoon, hilary, algore, gorelick, half-bright, reno, cohen,kennedy, kerry,cuomo and all the rest of the idiots in the demoncraptic party for causing and enabeling 9-11, and the war on terror that the Republicans have had to wage, with no help from the peanut gallery of fools....demoncrapts.....oh I forgot howey dean,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hang em HIGH!!!!


56 posted on 08/10/2005 7:49:44 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: philo
Here's hoping the the Bush Administration will go full stream ahead with this information. Using it to clean house at the DOD and the CIA. But most of all to finally investigate the crimes of the clintoons.
Bush doesn't have to be the good guy any longer. Let him take on the criminals in the previous administration.
57 posted on 08/10/2005 7:54:05 PM PDT by mickie
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To: Ben Chad

I assume Savage forgot to take his lithium this morning.

(The days he has any pep at all, he has scads of it. The other days, he's so low, he can't see over the steering wheel.)


58 posted on 08/10/2005 7:57:25 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: thebaron512
"Still even if they had green cards, if they were found to be in the states by LYING on their application: would you not want them to be questioned?"

"Yes!" -- no argument with me on that question but it is too late -- we cannot turn back the clock.

Accordingly, since the 911 attack cannot be undone and the 911 nut jobs committed suicide as part of their cowardly murders ... and we are clearly looking for the master nut job Osama ... we might as well see what can be done about the horrendously slimy and IMO culpable Ms. Gorelick.

59 posted on 08/10/2005 8:00:35 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy
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To: mewzilla

I caught a few minutes of Weldon on Fox and Friends this a.m., I am pretty sure he said one of the reasons this wasn't pursued was that the Justice Dept didn't want to risk politics and popularity with this because of Waco.

The JD used to same excuse to not nab the cult leader in our county who molested 140+ children. Amazingly, shortly after Bush took office, he was arrested and his compound was recently sold to be converted back to farmland.

Gotta have a legacy, ya know.

Risking popularity to stop the murder of American citizens? Sounds more like Bush's MO. Definatly not Clinton's.

BTW - Where's Jamie? (Gorlick) Where's Richie Clark? And *what* was Burglar stuffing in his pants?


60 posted on 08/10/2005 8:09:40 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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