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Cindy Sheehan: "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."
Cindy's Usenet Posts ^ | Various | Cindy Sheehan

Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill

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To: A. Pole
That all depends upon where one is. And since you were used to such a life and even "felt like a prince", for something no American born and bred person on this site would, therein lies the difference.

And such a village, is NOT what the person I was replying to, when you poked your nose into things, wants to live in, your posts are moot; if not totally inane and besides the point.

941 posted on 08/11/2005 12:01:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Alexander Rubin

:-)


942 posted on 08/11/2005 12:02:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
And since you were used to such a life and even "felt like a prince", for something no American born and bred person on this site would, therein lies the difference.

You are really dense. My point was that they were very kind and hospitable. They set up for me a nice place to sleep etc ... I stayed there for couple weeks a few times.

These people worked hard during the harvest (I was helping them a little but as a city kid I was rather clumsy) , they had to wake up early to feed animals. They had plenty of time for socialising when out of season. I would say they were quite happy.

They live the way their ancestors lived for centuries. Now it is all modern - concrete, bricks, electricity, TV, indoor plumbing. They are not less happy and not more happy than before.

943 posted on 08/11/2005 12:11:42 PM PDT by A. Pole (Confucius:A noble man strives as much to learn what is right as lesser man to discover what will pay)
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To: Sam Hill

How about the right to an education, hold property, and divorce? I guess you don't see those as "rights". Yeah, I'm insane. Can you discuss something without going off the deep-end, Mr. Hill? Or is that just not that much fun?


944 posted on 08/11/2005 12:31:09 PM PDT by notigar
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To: nopardons

I lived for a time in a rural setting with no running water.

And I drank from a well into which I lowered a bucket (occassional floating bugs and all)--albeit our well was not as deep as yours.

We had an outhouse and no electricity.

(We did have toilet paper, however.)

And the time is soon coming, I hope, when I may be so happy again.


945 posted on 08/11/2005 12:32:29 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Sam Hill

This person is illiterate.


946 posted on 08/11/2005 12:34:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: A. Pole
No, if anyone is "dense", it is you! Without reading the back and forth I was having with another poster, YOU jumped in with your personal anecdote, which had less than NOTHING whatsoever,to do with what we had been talking about.

Stone age living primitive peoples are also "happy", until they are exposed to the modern world. Then, they want what they have never known before. The reverse, with few exceptions ( like the unibomber ),is NOT true. Yet, the poster I was debating, wants everyone to leave the cities and suburban areas of this country and move to ISLOLATED areas and live a preindustial age , in order to deter terrorists from using WMDs here. That whole proposition is ridiculous and ludicrous; as are your posts to me!

947 posted on 08/11/2005 12:39:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Age of Reason

Just do it! Such a life can't cost much. And without electricity, you will no longer be able to be on line, thus making lots of people happy. :-)


948 posted on 08/11/2005 12:41:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Most of the comments I'd seen were from Freepers who didn't link to any information confirming it. Someone has now.


949 posted on 08/11/2005 12:41:50 PM PDT by elc
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To: elc

You need to read more and post less. Then you too, would know what the rest of us do. :-)


950 posted on 08/11/2005 12:42:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: katya8
You compare the mother of a slain soldier with a mother that sent her 18 year old daughter to a Caribbean Island where she was free to drink, drug, gamble and carouse and mother no 2 comes out on top?

Don't bother me with any more of your moral lessons.

951 posted on 08/11/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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To: Sam Hill

I suppose it was just a matter of time before she showed herself to be an anti-semite. Makes sense.


952 posted on 08/11/2005 12:51:08 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: iconoclast

No problem.


953 posted on 08/11/2005 1:00:53 PM PDT by notigar
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Jihadist money. her family has publically disavowed her on Drudge..


954 posted on 08/11/2005 1:27:37 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: johnb838

Somebody once had a story that went thusly.. The Messiah arrived, and a crowd asked "Is this your first time here, or have you once been here before?" He replied: "I can't remember.."


955 posted on 08/11/2005 1:30:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Sam Hill

That's funny. She doesn't look bluish..


956 posted on 08/11/2005 1:31:25 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alexander Rubin
And then, we have people who saw the threat for what it was. War is never good, but it's not necessarily the worse thing either. The consequences of not fighting, or capitulating are far worse than fighting.

Alexander, THAT IS ME! THAT IS PRECISELY WHERE I STAND!

Does anyone here really read what I post? Or, at the first detection of my utter disgust with the way this administration has analyzed, planned and executed their curious response to the attack on our nation are you all thrown into some sort spasm of attack?

Because I so passionately despise the mysterious maneuvers of Bush/Rummy/Cheney I am castigated as Hitler, an anti-semite, a leftie, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Well, so be it. These three have done their best to shroud this Jihadist War in a cloak of ambiguity from day one.

Why?

And, indeed, why do you folks not question their bizarre tactics, much less be outraged by them.

Shortly after Sept 11, 2001 we knew who was behind the vicious attack and anyone with the good sense God gave him knew what we had to do. GO AFTER OUR ENEMY, SEEK HIM OUT, AND PUNISH HIM SO MERCILOUSLY THAT THE LESSON WOULD STAND FOR THESE BARBARIANS FOR DECADES.

And, it at first appeared that we would do just that when we rushed into Afghanistan and bought ourselves some fighters. But soon the murk began to form .... it was to be the first war ever against a "tactic" instead of an enemy! Islam, our fearless leader declared, was a "religion of peace", and well, uh, the Jihadists were Muslims, so I guess we had to fight "terror".

Osama bin Laden was apparently too small a target for the "shock and awe" team (though we still are no closer to punishing him that we were four long years ago). So Bush, at his first opportunity, announced a BEVY of enemies ... Iraq, Iran, North Korea (for God's sake!) the "Axis of Evil" (slogans 'r us). Did this seem surreal to only me?

There was a lull between our action in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq while we tried to gather together an Army. For we did not immediately and still do not have sufficient forces to even deal effectively with a nation that was economically and militarily on its knees WHEN WE INVADED!

Yet here was (in my eyes only, I guess) this little under accomplisher from Midland TX shaking his fist at most of the ME and southeast Asia.

Suddenly the guy that started all this was forgotten (put on the shelf?). And, GWB proceeded to ... what .. spit in his hand? .. throw a dart at the globe? Well anyhow he decides the real problem lies with a tired old secularist and his worn out country.

And with irrationality like this on display we expected to form a coalition like Pop did? Yeah, in your dreams! I think that failure was purposeful, not accidental BTW, but that's a rant for another day.?

And this HAS turned into a rant. Sorry.

Bottom line .... When my country is attacked, you damn well better believe I am in favor of a war .... vigorously pursued against a specific enemy having defined clear cut objectives and clearly defined parameters (nation building, if any, to be done by the "world community").

I oppose insanity, waste, and lies. Nothing threatening, even for the perpetually paranoid.

957 posted on 08/11/2005 3:10:45 PM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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I agree with Sheehan. This was is about Israel. Defending Israel IS defending the U.S.


958 posted on 08/11/2005 4:06:11 PM PDT by AIPACspy
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To: iconoclast
When my country is attacked

It was attacked. Directly. On 9/11.

It hasn't been attacked since 9/11 because we've taken the fight to the enemy on the enemy's turf.

Sheehan's son died fighting the enemy over there so she and you wouldn't have to fight the enemy here.

You should thank God that Bush, not Gore, was in charge on 9/11. You should double the thanks that Kerry isn't in charge now.

959 posted on 08/11/2005 4:12:41 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: iconoclast
I oppose insanity, waste, and lies.

Then you must have cheered the toppling of Saddam Hussein's reign of horror.

960 posted on 08/11/2005 4:14:29 PM PDT by JCEccles
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