Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
Love
Cindy Sheehan
March 15, 2005
To Whom it May Concern:
Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.
[SNIP]
I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.
"Some seem to have a complex about seeing antisemitism everywhere."
Just out of curiosity, why do you think Cindy and OBL want Israel out of Palestine?
Do they hate Israel's flag--or is it possibly a religious thing?
everything you say is on point. people who fall into the leftist (I distinguish this from garden variety and very legitimate "liberalism") are loose screws. It's the party of the irrational, the dreamer, the malcontent, the irresponsible, the lunatic, the whatever, everything and anything except salt of the earth. Which introduces theology but I hadn't meant to do that -- yet the conclusion is inevitable. Wrong vs. Right, Good vs. Evil, Good sense vs. Ignorance, reality vs. fiction, order vs. chaos, hope vs. fear, truth vs. lies....etc.
I'll ask you the same question:
Just out of curiosity, why do you think Cindy and OBL want Israel out of Palestine?
Do they hate Israel's flag--or is it possibly a religious thing?
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought she [Cindy] was separated.....
She doesn't limit her hatred to Bush and the GOP:
“George Bush and his neo-conservatives killed my son,” she said tearing up a bit. “America has been killing people on this continent since it was started. This country is not worth dying for.”
See post #413 for more of her tirades. (Which the MSM will never report.)
The only thing more pitiful than an anti-Semite is an anti-Semite without the courage of its own rancid convictions; one intellectually bucktoothed enough to genuinely believe -- way down deep, in the dank cellar of its non-existent soul -- that it's actually fooling anyone over the age of four whenever it says "Israel," instead of "kikes" or "Jews."
No. The soldier's mother is now delusional.
That reminds me.
Did we ever sign any kind peace treaty with Iraq the second time around?
A neo-conservative (abbreviated as neo-con or neocon) is part of a U.S. based political movement rooted in liberal Cold War anticommunism and a backlash to the social liberation movements of the 1960s and 1970s. These liberals drifted toward conservatism: thus they are new (neo) conservatives. They favor an aggressive unilateral U.S. foreign policy. They generally believe that elites protect democracy from mob rule. Sometimes the spelling is "neoconservative."...
...Origins of the neo-conservative movement In their book Right-Wing Populism in America, Chip Berlet and Matthew Lyons wrote that:
Neoconservatives, including many Jewish and Catholic intellectuals rooted in Cold War liberalism, clustered around publications such as Public Interest and Commentary and organizations such as the Committee on the Present Danger. They emphasized foreign policy, where they advocated aggressive anticommunism, U.S. global dominance, and international alliances. Although they attacked feminism, gay rights, and multiculturalism, "neocons" often placed less emphasis on social policy issues, and many of them opposed school prayer or a ban on abortion. In addition, many neocons supported limited social welfare programs and nonrestrictive immigration policies." [1]
Inter-Press Service journalist Jim Lobe noted that the development of a common understanding on the definition of neoconservative "can help distinguish them from other parts of the ideological coalition behind the administration's neo-imperialist trajectory". Lobe identifies the main strands as "the traditional Republican Machtpolitikers (Might Makes Right), such as Vice President Dick Cheney and Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld, and the Christian Rightists, such as Attorney General John Ashcroft, Gary Bauer, and Pat Robertson."[2]
Writing in 2002 Lobe and Tom Barry argued that"neoconservatives have a profound belief in America1s moral superiority, which facilitates alliances with the Christian Right and other social conservatives. But unlike either core traditionalists of American conservatism or those with isolationist tendencies, neoconservatives are committed internationalists. As they did in the 1970s, the neoconservatives were instrumental in the late 1990s in helping to fuse diverse elements of the right into a unified force based on a new agenda of U.S. supremacy.."[3]
As others have mentioned, I've seen neo-con used as code for Jewish conservative. There's a quiz at http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html . At the end it mentions that a historical neocon would be Pres. Theodore Roosevelt and a modern one would be Ronald Reagan.
For OBL because it's a symbol of Muslim weakness and because he hates Jews and because he hates the west and he hates modernization and he resents the fall of the caliphate and he's a wahabist and fundamentalist and any number of reasons.
For Cindy, because she's probably stupid enough to see it as another example of western imperialism, of institutionalized racism, because maybe she is an anti-Semite, or because she's deranged by her son's death, because she thinks Israel is a horrible human rights abuser, imperialist, militarist and apartheid state (it isn't but that doesn't stop most lefties), etc. etc. She could be anti-Semite, and I can understand suspicion that she is (and I suspect her myself, though there is little evidence). But it's more a hatred of Israel as a symbol of the West.
It also appears that she has lost almost all her friends too and is replacing them with hate filled wackjobs. LOL
Just out of curiosity,
Does Cindy want Israel out of Palestine
Or does Cindy America out of their quarrel?
Please link me to where you got this. This is fascinating... :D
Referring to her original account of her meeting with the President, I think some so-called friends met with her later and messed with her head. Cindy is now a puppet, saying what her so-called friends tell her to say. Almost like a cult indoctrination? I almost call it assimilation into the liberal hive mentality.
And when MoveOn and Code Pinko have no further use for her, Cindy will be kicked to the curb.
It's deleted now. Do you know why?
I can guess. But what site was it on? We'll just use the Wayback machine, or a cache, save it to hard disk then use it against her.
No, Iconoclast, that sort of thing plays well into the enemy hands, that's a fact. We are also involved in a propaganda war as well, that is a given when fighing any war, it takes place on several fronts.
No "doofus" has to say anything, or be located in the WH basement, just use your God-given common-sense. Have you noticed how quickly Al Jazeera picks up on this stuff? The most recent examples of how this plays out took place after the "holy" Qu'ran so-called flushing, Newsweek's lies, Durbin's remarks, etc. There also seemed to be a spike in bombing incidents after all this--pretty plain to me. "Crap"? I think not, many things are used as weapons besides M-16s and 25mm Bushmasters.
WORDS MEAN THINGS, sound familiar?
You should taught your boy to ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT Cindy.
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