Supreme Court asked to hear witch case

Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 8/9/05

[Crackingham]

The American Civil Liberties Union has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review a decision that allows the Chesterfield County Board of Supervisors to exclude a local witch from leading the prayer at open meetings.

The ACLU of Virginia yesterday filed its petition with the court seeking to reverse a Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals decision, said ACLU attorney Rebecca K. Glenberg.

"Our position is that the 4th Circuit did something really extreme in its decision," she said. "It held that it was acceptable for a government body to treat people differently because of religion."

Cynthia Simpson, a witch who lives in Chesterfield, requested in 2002 to be placed on a list of religious leaders invited to deliver the invocation at meetings of the Board of Supervisors. So far, her request has been denied.

[IronJack]

Read the Mayflower Compact. It draws even more inspiration from Providence.

Which, by the way, is the capital city of Rhode Island. Another peculiar manifestation of that Divine presence that doesn't exist anywhere in our founding.

God sure seems to crop up a lot in a country that has no sacred roots. The Founders must have had a short list of place names.

[rwfromkansas]

I will note that the "American" Congress paid for chaplains and for Christian missionaries.

Not Muslim imams or Jewish rabbis etc.

[Purple GOPer]

Bookmark ping

[DaveTesla]

What interests the champions of all the major progressives
- the radical naturalists, the Marxist / Communist, the multiculturalists,
and the sexual hedonists-is the destruction of the traditional
Judaeo-Christian family and culture. This is the tie that
binds. Christians and their values are all that stand in
the way of their creating their own heavens on earth. "In
a world without God," said Sartre (paraphrasing
Dostoevsky), "anything is permitted." That "anything"
includes deceit, dishonesty and murder, weapons that the
Christians are inclined to deny themselves by virtue of their Christain faith.

[IronJack]

Sentiments echoed in Marx's dialectical approach to "revolution." To own the future, one must destroy the past. Anything that safeguards continuity of culture must be discredited. Which is why conservatives must never sleep, and no accomodation is possible with the Left.

They are vermin. They must be eradicated and their filthy soul-denying statist god driven to hell where it belongs.

[Nightshift]

re·li·gion Audio pronunciation of "religion" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn) n. 1. 1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. 2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

#4 applies

[orionblamblam]

>> It [the Declaration of Independence] in no way defines what sort of nation the US would be, how it would be governed, what the laws and rights were... nothing.

> Nothing? Not at all? So the second paragraph ("We hold these truths to be self-evident ...") and the ensuing list of grievances don't define what a government should and should not be?

You are *finally* correct. The DoI established *nothing* except "We won;t be part of Britain anymore, and here's why." The US coudl ahve gone in *many* possible directions... including monarchy with King George Washington the First. The DoI established no rules for such.

> The Wookie ... er, I should have said Wiccan ...

That *really* *is* the limit to your ability to debate, isn't it.

> Either Saxon laws -- including the Capitulate -- defined English law or they didn't.

And they did. And Saxon common law was pagan in origin. I'm sorry that you can't handle this simple fact.

> But if you are an adherent of Wonka ... er, I meant Wicca ...

Ok, now I'm certain: you're actively *trying* to make yourself look ignorant and childish.

> should invite the Wobbly ... darn! I mean Wiccan wacko ... drat! I mean "priestess" ..

And further evidence is given. Thank you for crappign all ove rhte Conservative cause with your ignorance.

[orionblamblam]

>>4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

>#4 applies

Then "religion" means nothing, as that can be applied to watching TV, reading FR, supporting George Bush, opposing George Bush, observing the rules of the road, showign up for work on time.

Yay! Everything is a religion! I claim tax exemption for the food I buy!

[Aquinasfan]

Since there are different perceptions, any deity tends to be perceived differently. Different people therefore arrive at different interpretations of any universal "Truth." Many of these interpretations are mutally exclusive. Since we are only using our interpretation of "Truth," no one can lay claim to any one interpretation being the real one.

Is this really true, or merely your perception?

Someone's been feeding you a line, and it ain't coming from up above.

I highly recommend Peter Kreeft's "Handbook of Christian Apologetics."

[Aquinasfan]

And Jefferson assured at least one church that the state having a different established church would not impinge on the religious freedom of that church. Danbury Baptists, where the term "wall of separation" comes from.

Yeah. So? The Supremes were grasping for straws back in the 40s, and they found this one.

[Ma3lst0rm]

I thought it was bewitching myself. ;-)

[Jeff Blogworthy]

How do you know there is no God?

[IronJack]

And further evidence is given. Thank you for crappign all ove rhte Conservative cause with your ignorance.

This from a guy who

1) Is a Wanker ... er, I mean, Wiccan; At least he is today. Yesterday he was in Heaven's Gate, but they left this plane of existence without him (more's the pity);
2) Can't spell "the";
3) Can't spell "crapping";
4) And can't apply the smidgin of history he learned at PS 12 to the real world.

The only "cause" to which YOU'RE a credit is retroactive abortion.

[orionblamblam]

> 1) Is a Wanker .

Again you prove my point for me.

> 2) Can't spell "the";
>3) Can't spell "crapping";

Wow. A spelling lamer! How marvelously 1995 of you!

> 4) And can't apply the smidgin of history he learned at PS 12 to the real world.

Seems to me that *YOU* are the one ignoring history that you do not like. To you, history only starts when someone converts to your preferred religion. Tain't so.

> The only "cause" to which YOU'RE a credit is retroactive abortion.

Ah. Supporting murder of those you see as pagans. Again... you prove my point for me.

[little jeremiah]

"In a world without God," said Sartre (paraphrasing Dostoevsky), "anything is permitted."

Exactly so.

[mugs99]

Hitler

[mugs99]

vision of Christian liability

Nonsense. I do not hold Christians liable. I hold men liable. I am pointing out where your train of thought leads gullible men.

There was nothing CHRISTIAN in the Holocaust

I'll agree, it sure wasn't very Christian of them...
The Holocaust began with "Germany is a Christian nation" after Hitler wrote Mein Kampf.
"We wish to fill our culture once more with the spirit of Christianity - but not only in theory. And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Hitler was a Roman Catholic. His Protestant followers were the Deutche Christen. Nazism was supported by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders. Only one small group of Christians led by Dietrich Bonhoeffer opposed Nazism. They were the "Confessing Christians" and not recognized by the Protestant orthodoxy. They were about as popular then as those witches you're complaining about are now.
.

[mugs99]

And in Mussolini's mind, it was worth whatever the cost to make the trains run on time

And restore the power of the Christian Church in Italy! That was his campaign promise and he kept it.
.

[DaveTesla]

That is a load of garbage.
Hitler was an occultist.
Since when does genocide and madness
EQUATE TO BEING A CHRISTIAN?
All you did here was be extremely offensive
and give credence to Godwin's Law.
You are crossing the line.

[Nightshift]

That is correct. anybody can claim religion for anything.

All you have to do is file and say I worhsip at the temple of the holy Tomato and yes you can get the tax exemption.

religion use to be the 1st 3 definitions, but todays PC crowd has changed that and the latter definition has been added.