Posted on 08/09/2005 7:41:36 AM PDT by SLB
Below is the release put on the Army website last night
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Army Relieves General of His Command
August 8, 2005
On Aug. 8, the Chief of Staff of the Army directed the relief of Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes from his position as Commanding General, United States Army Training and Doctrine Command. The investigation upon which this relief is based is undergoing further review to determine the appropriate final disposition of this matter.
As the investigation into this is continuing, please discourage speculation from your Soldiers. LTG Jones will be the acting commander until LTG Wallace is confirmed as the new TRADOC commander.
The little turd wouldn't listen to me during an CO/BN ARTEP evaluation and he screwed up the entire BN night mounted attack portion. I Laughed my ass off at him and the two West Point grad who were the other two platoon leaders. When I told the CO that he didn't cover a very important point in the operations order (like what is the code word to begin the final assault up the objective), he finally had to tell me to drop it.
Well, the Brigade CO, ADC-ops and the CG were watching the exercise from the top of our company's objective. the look on his face was priceless, and lacking the normal amount of tact; I said, 'I knew something like this was going to happen."
Now I can't wait to hear what the sexual misconduct was.
We can now anticipate more mandatory prevention of sexual misconduct programs/classes to take up our work time.
So, what unit were you with? Up to about a year before the 'event', I was with 2/60 IN (MECH) "Scouts Out", right next door to 2/77 Armor.
This guy getting relieved, demoted and retired will be training enough.
Not true ... here is some light on that subject. I had an IG complaint against me (unfounded) involving an enlisted wife complaining about her quarters and her husband. She was claiming that the her husband was abusive and I wasn't doing anything as a commander to protect her. I had already moved the NCO into the barracks, but when I found out that she was screwing around on her husband in government quarters, I had her removed. The IG supported me.
Another subject:
The Army IG himself MG David Hale was relieved as the IG for sex with subordinates wives (that's one way to get good OERs....). In Alaska, Hale had a rep for screwing around ... it's ironic as the IG the IGs got him.
I didn't mean training for him. I am talking about the rest of the workforce. Everytime one of these stuunods pull a stunt like this we are subject to new training programs to teach us not to do like they do.
Officer: 1986-1989 3/1 Infantry, we took over 2-60's barracks and were also right next to 2/77 AR. We inactivated 2nd Bde.
What was that program that Clinton's under secretary of the army, Sarah Lister, started? Something about concern for others?
This one is even dumber than your last very recent stupid statement. You seem to be losing it almost as swiftly as your fellow traveler Dane.
Please tell us some more about that submarine...
"Consideration for Others".
Folks in my department developed and wrote the "program".
blech
It sure got two recently-promoted Air Training Command BGens relieved in the early 1980's. These two clowns, at Keesler MTTC and Lowry MTTC (now closed) respectively, were having newly assigned female airmen screened and having the good looking ones diverted to their staffs. Then they made "proposals" to them (which some allegedly accepted). The general at Keesler met his downfalls when he really annoyed some old colonel on his staff who blew the whistle on his brazen behavior. I believe the general at Lowry also was turned in by a disgruntled colonel.
You also reminded me of a Battery ARTEP from 78 or 79. Although I was Maintenance Officer (a career killer if ever there was one), I also had to play XO as the XO was at Vilseck, and "just couldn't be replaced". During the second day (of 3 days), my CO gave the wrong coordinates to a platoon leader, giving his towed Vulcan platoon a 10 KM route defense, instead of your usual point defense. The brilliant butterbar did not question the order, and that was one of his "brighter" moves during the day.
There were other memorable moments, such as another platoon missing its morning mission time by about 30 minutes. By the end of that second day, we had "C-4" written all over us.
That evening, I blasted the leadership of that battery, not knowing the ARTEP Team Chief was standing outside the CP van. I spent at least 10 minutes telling each Platoon Leader and Platoon Sergeant what they would do the following day (and how they would do it), i.e. put on a dog and pony show in the finest traditions of the US Army.
As I walked back to my maintenance area, I saw the Team Chief, and immediately thought, ohhhhhhhhh crap!
Instead, the major smiled at me and said, "That was beautiful, LT! That's exactly what they needed!"
We passed the ARTEP the next day, and I still got a crappy OER.
Air Defense Artillery - the branch that eats its young.
I probably would've been better off in the infantry.
Good thats the way it should be, would you rather have it be a majority of Muslims or Satanists.
When your walking down a dark street in a bad neighborhood and their are a bunch of guys walking behind you would it comfort you to know that they just came from church?
This is a Christian nation, born of Christian principles and founded on Christian beliefs lets not be afraid to claim it.
I dated a LTGs daughter for two years and never saw her father sober after 6:00 clock. Maybe it's different today but the WWII veteran officers played hard.
I didn't mean training for him either. If the rest of the 'workforce' can't get a clue when a Gen. gets demoted and ushered out of the service, a class won't do any good.
When I was a junior in ROTC at Eastern Washington University, there was a captain that got caught with his pants off in the cadet lounge with a Sponsor Corps student. He was quietly transferred out of his ROTC cadre assignment a year early.
After my four years of active duty, I spent 3-4 years as a training officer with a reserve training unit. We spent one two week active duty in support of ROTC Summer Camp at Ft. Lewis and this same guy had eventually been promoted to LTC and was the CO of the ROTC detachment at Washington State University. Seemed kind of odd given his last ROTC assignment.
About a year after that, I heard that he was relieved because he was screwing a student at WSU. What a shock. His big problem was he dropped the girl and she had a friend who was related to a congressman.
I think they call that an 'Oh, sh!t' moment.
Thanks for sharing that. I was fortunate enough NOT to be involved in any kind of shenanigans like that.
I think everyone who was in the Army has 'Oh Shit' stories. My impression of Cavasos makes me think he would have eaten your CO for breakfast. I totally understand your position about knowing when your career is over .... mine was as a CO in Berlin .... at least I had more fun then a person should be allowed.
Heh!
My platoon aced the ARTEP, and I made sure that ungrateful little SOB pass the IG and the Motor pool was a friggin nighmare before I got there and straighten the mess up.
I would have been a hell of a wartime officer, but didn't tolerate B.S. like the time the CO and the lazy 1SG suggested not serving the troops hot breakfast in the field because the troops would rather have C-rats than risk being late with a hot breakfast.
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