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Faith-Based Evolution (a meteorologist looks at ID and "evolutionism")
Tech Central Station ^ | 08/08/2005 | Roy W. Spencer

Posted on 08/09/2005 4:42:44 AM PDT by Nicholas Conradin

Twenty years ago, as a PhD scientist, I intensely studied the evolution versus intelligent design controversy for about two years. And finally, despite my previous acceptance of evolutionary theory as "fact," I came to the realization that intelligent design, as a theory of origins, is no more religious, and no less scientific, than evolutionism.

In the scientific community, I am not alone. There are many fine books out there on the subject. Curiously, most of the books are written by scientists who lost faith in evolution as adults, after they learned how to apply the analytical tools they were taught in college.

You might wonder how scientists who are taught to apply disciplined observation and experimentation and to search for natural explanations for what is observed in nature can come to such a conclusion? For those of you who consider themselves open-minded, I will try to explain.

True evolution, in the macro-sense, has never been observed, only inferred. A population of moths that changes from light to dark based upon environmental pressures is not evolution -- they are still moths. A population of bacteria that become resistant to antibiotics does not illustrate evolution -- they are still bacteria. In the biological realm, natural selection (which is operating in these examples) is supposedly the mechanism by which evolution advances, and intelligent design theory certainly does not deny its existence. While natural selection can indeed preserve the stronger and more resilient members of a gene pool, intelligent design maintains that it cannot explain entirely new kinds of life -- and that is what evolution is.

Possibly the most critical distinction between the two theories (or better, "models") of origins is this: While similarities between different but "related" species have been attributed by evolutionism to common ancestry, intelligent design explains the similarities based upon common design. An Audi and a Ford each have four wheels, a transmission, an engine, a gas tank, fuel injection systems … but no one would claim that they both naturally evolved from a common ancestor.

Common ancestry requires transitional forms of life to have existed through the millions of years of supposed biological evolution. Yet the fossil record, our only source of the history of life on Earth, is almost (if not totally) devoid of transitional forms of life that would connect the supposed evolution of amphibians to reptiles, reptiles to birds, etc. This is why Stephen Jay Gould, possibly the leading evolutionist of our time, advanced his "punctuated equilibria" theory. In this theory, evolution leading to new kinds of organisms occurs over such brief periods of time that it was not captured in the fossil record. Upon reflection, one cannot help but notice that this is not arguing based upon the evidence -- but instead from the lack of evidence.

One finally comes to the conclusion that, despite vigorous protests, belief in evolution and intelligent design are matters of faith. Even some evolutionists have admitted as much in their writings. Modern biology does not "fall apart" without evolution, as some will claim. Maybe the theories of the origins of forms of life fall apart, or theories of the origin of capabilities that those life forms exhibit, or the supposed ancestral relationships between them fall apart. But these are merely intellectual curiosities, serving only to stimulate discussion and teach the next generation of students the same beliefs. From a practical point of view, the intelligent design paradigm is just as useful to biology, and I believe, more satisfying from an intellectual point of view.

Intelligent design can be studied and taught without resorting to human creation traditions and beliefs, which in the West are usually traceable to the first book of the Bible, Genesis. Just as someone can recognize and study some machine of unknown purpose built by another company, country (or alien intelligence?), one can also examine the natural world and ask the question: did this machine arise by semi-random natural physical processes, or could it have been designed by a higher power? Indeed, I was convinced of the intelligent design arguments based upon the science alone.

Of course, ultimately, one must confront the origin of that higher power, which will logically lead to the possibility of an original, uncaused, First Cause. But then we would be firmly in the religious realm. All naturalistic cosmological theories of origins must invent physics that have never been observed by science -- because the "Big Bang" can't be explained based upon current physics. A naturalistic origin of the universe violates either the First or Second Laws of thermodynamics -- or both. So, is this science? Or faith?

It is already legal to teach intelligent design in public schools. What is not currently legal is to mandate its teaching. The Supreme Court has ruled that this would violate the First Amendment's establishment of religion clause.

But I have some questions relating to this: Does not classical evolutionism, based almost entirely upon faith, violate the same clause? More importantly, what about the establishment clause of the First Amendment, which states that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion?

If the public school system insists on teaching evolution as a theory of origins, in the view of many a religious activity, why is it discriminating against the only other theory of origins, intelligent design? (There is, by the way, no third theory of origins that anyone has ever been able to determine.) At the very least, school textbooks should acknowledge that evolution is a theory of origins, it has not been proved, and that many scientists do not accept it.

There are a variety of ideas that try to blend evolution and intelligent design, the most unified one being "pantheism" that sees God and nature as One. This view, which has been held by many peoples throughout recorded history, has also been advanced here at TCS. But more commonly, people subscribe to the notion that a Creator "got things started," and then evolution "took over."

The problem I have with this is that it grants far too much significance to macroevolution, since it has virtually no observational evidence to support it. One wonders: Why do so many people defend it so fervently?

Whether intelligent design is ever taught in school is probably not as important as the freedom that we have in a free society to discuss, and study, such issues. And for that, I am thankful.


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To: mordo
Well I have observed them myself at day and night at fairly close range, less than 200 feet away with plain eye sight and with 10X50 field glasses.

I watched one hunt pheasants from our deck a couple of months ago, in plain daylight. He took off as soon as he saw me. That's one difference already between the coyotes in our area (rural Nebraska) which are shy; and Northeastern coyotes, which IME are much bolder.

The coyote is a very opportunist feeder and he is very adaptable.

None of this rules out genetic adaptation. The wolf and coyote share a recent common ancestor; they still can and do interbreed in the right circumstances. When you look at the difference between a wolf and coyote, particularly eastern Canadian wolves , you're already seeing the effect of evolution. Wolves - near-obligate hunters - are larger and more powerful, with very different behavior. Coyotes, as they relied less of hunting large herbivores, have become smaller. That will continue; the populations that have largely gone over to scavenging will become less shy of humans, evolve dentition that's more characteristic of omnivores and less of carnivores, become smaller, probably less seasonal in their breeding, etc..

Someone asked for a prediction; that's a prediction.

81 posted on 08/10/2005 8:14:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (Warning! Thetan on board!)
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To: Nicholas Conradin
Indeed, I was convinced of the intelligent design arguments based upon the science alone.

That's like being convinced to go out and kill an old lady based on the teachings of the bible alone.

82 posted on 08/10/2005 8:16:37 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Right Wing Professor
He took off as soon as he saw me.

Well see, now you think because you got saw by a coyote & coyote saw you and ran off, then coyotes that don't run off aren't shy. The coyotes I talk about haven't seen me.

And now your example (the coyotes adaptation) does not rule out genetic adaptation where as before it was evidence for genetic adaptation.
Its getting to mushy around here.

Yes someone asked 2 questions

1.What's the current rate of evolution?
2.What can we expect the current evolutionary model to yield in the next 1000 years?


Question 1 never got answered.
Question 2 answered with 6 examples and at least 1/6 or 15% of that on very shaky genetic adaptable coyote hypothesis evidence.
For this I find the evidences you included for your current evolutionary model suspect.
83 posted on 08/10/2005 8:48:30 AM PDT by mordo
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To: mordo
Question 1 never got answered.

Because it's a dumb question. It depends on the organisms. Bacteria can evolve in a day. Elephants take millenia.

Question 2 answered with 6 examples and at least 1/6 or 15% of that on very shaky genetic adaptable coyote hypothesis evidence.

It was a prediction, not evidence. Come back in 1000 years and tell me I was wrong ;-)

84 posted on 08/10/2005 9:38:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (Warning! Thetan on board!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
You predicted 6 things, one of them that coyotes adapt to eating garbage over deer.

I said Coyote is very adaptable, is opportunistic and will eat what is readily available.

Thats where you made the case for your coyote example being genetic adaptation. Thats when it became some of your evidence. It is then both for you.

I predict that the coyote of the future will be more like the coyote he is then than he is now, and genetically he'll still be a coyote too.

And no one can say I'm wrong either. Or they can but Mordo is laughing at them.
85 posted on 08/10/2005 10:20:01 AM PDT by mordo
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