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I thought someone would have posted this already. I didn't see this posted, so here we go.

Russia needs the cash, and China wants the "goods", among many, many other factors.

1 posted on 08/08/2005 7:29:05 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777
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This is not a good sign.

Considering Communist nations lack the ability to create wealth, their need for new economic infusion comes via expansion.

I'm a little more suspect of Russia at this point. We know what we have in China, but Russia isn't too different (in their goals) IMHOP.


2 posted on 08/08/2005 7:32:27 PM PDT by mcg2000
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Wow it's nice that Russia and China are gearing up to provide our boys with some much-needed target practice.


3 posted on 08/08/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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Just strategy? Or is it "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"


4 posted on 08/08/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Gotta wonder if some Chinese soldiers carrying the mystery
virus will infect and decimate both forces.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1399613/posts


5 posted on 08/08/2005 7:36:33 PM PDT by Boundless
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Didn't the SCUD missile come from Russia? Didn't Russia hen-peck the Afghani's?
If this article was supposed to scare me it didn't. Russia is poor as dirt and its a shame. I guess China doesn't trust its own people well enough to make its own weapons in its own factories.


7 posted on 08/08/2005 7:39:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
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That's right, we bad, we da man.
8 posted on 08/08/2005 7:40:27 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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They can structure this any way they want. We can still kick either - or both - of their butts.

Both of their militaries are decades behind us.


9 posted on 08/08/2005 7:40:59 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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Seriously, this is kinda like Archie Bunker and Gloria Steinem doing a duet.


10 posted on 08/08/2005 7:41:55 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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They will lead with their Attack Small Submarines.


15 posted on 08/08/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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We should send our own message to our "most favored nation". How about instantly revalue their currency a minimum of 25% or keep the junk you flood our markets with? How about those cheap third rate automobiles you just got approved to sell over here? Keep em.
China right now doesn't have the military recourses or infrastructure to stand up to us. We need to regrow our own industry and and cut off any country that sells to China. I mean any country. We don't outsource to them, we don't cooperate militarily, either with training or joint research and development and we block their crappy products.
I don't know about you guys but I am seriously sick to death with our Demicans and Republicrats maneuvering us into world war three forty years down the line. There is no long term plan for America in Washington, there is only a global plan. I like America and don't want to support the international community (including our two continents) anymore. Anyone who wants to go against us should have to logically follow their actions to loss of American support. We the people are getting sold down the river on most issues foreign and domestic by these sellout politicians.
Sorry about the rant but I say bring back the Wig (sp?) party and lets flush all the sellout worthless traitorous politicians!
16 posted on 08/08/2005 7:48:44 PM PDT by bbenton
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China-Russian alliance has been in the works since the US-led NATO war against Yugoslavia. The Clinton apologists like to claim that there was no downside to that war but always fail to mention that it was that war that pushed Russian and China into each others arms.


18 posted on 08/08/2005 7:50:03 PM PDT by Avenger
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eroding decades of dominance by Washington

Presumably Jane believes that Washington dominated Asia decades ago, right after America's leftist elites insisted upon abandoning Vietnam.

20 posted on 08/08/2005 7:54:37 PM PDT by Milhous
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The Chinese have this money as a result of a manufacturing economy that is dependent on the patronage of the people - us - at whom the toys they're buying are ostensibly pointed. But there isn't much they really can do militarily except bother the people who sold them the toys. What do they want that those toys can get them? Territory, such as Taiwan or the border territory they've already fought a war against the ex-Soviets over? A ruined and impoverished Korea? A Japan that they failed to conquer in the 13th century? What?

The good news is that they won't be taking over the world militarily - the best they can do is wreck it. The bad news is that if they figure out a way to take over the world economically, we're toast.

21 posted on 08/08/2005 8:02:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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"Old enemies' wargames send a powerful message to the US"

Don't trip over our crappy submersibles...

23 posted on 08/08/2005 8:14:47 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("That was the gift the President gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."-- Cindy Sheehan)
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Coming two days after they had to call us to save their submarine, this display of force is somehow less awe-inspiring than they mean it to be.


27 posted on 08/08/2005 8:33:02 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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They didn't have the equipment to rescue their own submariners.


33 posted on 08/09/2005 2:46:13 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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So, We know where and when - now we just unleash the beast and suprise the comunists with a fatal blow to the head....

courtesy of the Red White and Blue.


35 posted on 08/09/2005 5:57:20 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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We beat the Soviets. We'll beat the Chinese too. And we'll fleece them financially in the process.

Russia's betting on a loser here, namely, that a communist state will prevail over the free world.

I notice that the article can't resist a shot at calling Russia/China a new 'pole' to oppose the sheer superpowerness of America. This is a laugh. The last 'pole' was Europe in opposing our Iraqi war. And now they're falling into line to support our position after only a couple of puny bombs in London.
38 posted on 08/09/2005 7:52:49 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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The reported size of the exercise is off by an order of magnitude. The number is 10,000, not 100,000. See this link China, Russia to launch first joint military exercises
40 posted on 08/09/2005 8:32:38 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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Everyone should be careful reading too much into this, considering our coordination with China and Russia, including the terror war stuff and IIRC, actual naval exercises with Russia.

That said, China's going to be Cold War II.

42 posted on 08/09/2005 9:41:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (God Bless 3rd Battalion, 25th Marines, Heroes Proved.)
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