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So many factors to consider. With prices already topping $2.60/gallon, 30-to-1 seems rather steep.
1 posted on 08/08/2005 8:20:52 AM PDT by newgeezer
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There are many factors at work here, but I don't think we'll get to that point ($3.00/gal.) on a national-average basis.

There are some signs that demand is starting to slacken, both here and abroad.
Hurricane threats in the Gulf (of Mexico) have eased (the late season threat is typically in the Atlantic).
Refinery capacity is the biggest problem (IMHO). We just don't have enough refineries, and no one wants one in their backyard -yet. We'll see what a year's worth of $2.00+ gasoline does to change people's minds.
ANWR needs to happen, along with Continental shelf exploration. Is there any political will from the Republicans? We'll see.
Market speculation is rampant now, but will likely calm along with demand in the fall.
As for industrial demand, wind power and solar energy are expensive and inefficient, and coal is not all that clean. Nuclear power is now getting a second look from people who used to dismiss it out of hand, but wince every time they fill up their SUV's. Hell, if the French can do it, why not us?

51 posted on 08/08/2005 8:51:56 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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There is no oil shortage. We have a refining problem. There have been no new refineries built in the US for the past 30 years. The grand Poo-Paa from Saudi Arabia has been on TV many times in the past few months saying we would be gland to send the US more oil but they don't have the capacity to refine it. Now ask yourselves who has stopped the construction of refineries in the US for the past 30 years?
54 posted on 08/08/2005 8:54:43 AM PDT by kempo
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At the rate it has been going here in Central Texas, it will reach 3.00 in a month or so. Every three days like clockwork it spikes .06-.12. Just this morning it was 2.19-2.25. Now it is 2.29-2.37. I suspect it will be around $2.50 by the end of the week.


63 posted on 08/08/2005 8:59:14 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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In NYC, I doubt it. But LA, with its psychotic mess of both state and EPA regulations requiring a different formulation of gasoline to be sold practically every other day ... yeah, I can see them hitting $3 easily. All it would take is some minor event in the Middle East happening about the same time some American refinery serving SoCal was offline for a couple of days.


66 posted on 08/08/2005 9:01:10 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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It's already about $2.70/gl around my neck of the woods.


70 posted on 08/08/2005 9:04:29 AM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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Shucks, I covered this some time ago:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Some links
various FR links | 03-17-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1099933/posts


74 posted on 08/08/2005 9:08:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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If the initial odds are 30-1 it means that the site is trying to get "action." As people start betting, the odds will adjust until at some point the betting evens out mathematically. In the end, the site will make money no matter what the price of gasoline is.
75 posted on 08/08/2005 9:08:30 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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I am sorry I am not much of a gambler. Does this mean if I bet $1 I get $30 back if it hits 3 bucks a gallon? Or the other way around I bet $30 and get $1 back?


76 posted on 08/08/2005 9:09:16 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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Gasoline is already over $3 a gallon, if you go by imperial gallons, not the quart short American gallon.

An imperial gallon costs $3.91 (USD) in Canada ($4.75 Canadian dollars)
A U.S. Gallon would cost $3.31 (USD) in Canada. That's because gasoline taxes are that much higher in Canucky land.

So, as you can see, things could be worse. $2.60 for a US gallon ($3.25 for an imperial gallon) isn't all that bad.
Economically, the USA is the cheapest place to do business as far as energy costs go.

In Europe, and the UK, gas could cost you $6 or more for an imperial gallon.


95 posted on 08/08/2005 9:21:19 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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I just got my new monthly oil heating bill installment for the 2005 - 2006 season and it jumped from $158.00 per month to a whopping $300.00 per month. I can't wait until I can retire and move to a warmer climate.


111 posted on 08/08/2005 9:35:35 AM PDT by Wiggins
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The situation in Iran is the cause of this. $3 may be a bargain depending on how it turns out after Iran's nuke facilities are taken out.
112 posted on 08/08/2005 9:35:38 AM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton =RAT Titantic)
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I'd take that action, and use the winnings to fill my tank. :)


137 posted on 08/08/2005 10:01:43 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Skol Vikings.)
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Places in San Francisco it already has topped $3.00. The average price is over $2.60 for regular.


155 posted on 08/08/2005 10:18:11 AM PDT by Primetimedonna
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I paid 2.98 a gallon for regular in Baker, California last month. The station down the road had it at 3.06 or some such for regular.


160 posted on 08/08/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Graham Petrie, 1911 - 2005: Rest in Peace.)
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On Thursday morning, I bought gas at a Sheetz station just on the Virginia side of the Nice Bridge (Potomac River) on Rt. 301 for 2.09/gal. I passed back through there on Sunday afternoon and it was at 2.19/gal. Dang, now my cheap gas isn't even cheap anymore... (But it does stay between 15 and 25 cents cheaper than most stations between Maryland and NC)
186 posted on 08/08/2005 10:51:09 AM PDT by Hatteras
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I could see it going higher than 3....how about we get the lawmakers to shave off some of those taxes....we could decrease the price by at least a buck.


202 posted on 08/08/2005 11:49:59 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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$3 / gallon at the pump before Labor Day?


219 posted on 08/08/2005 7:07:51 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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If the Dems get in in '08, they'll nationalize the oil companies.


221 posted on 08/08/2005 9:20:58 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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The Republican Congress might just as well resign right now. If this mess continues much longer, the Democrats are likely to sweep the 2006 elections and retake control of Congress with veto-proof majorities.


230 posted on 08/16/2005 6:14:09 PM PDT by HuronMan
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