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New Daylight Saving May Cause Tech Problems (We're Doomed!! DOOMED!!)
Yahoo! - The Associated Press ^ | 8/7/05 | By ANICK JESDANUN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2005 11:37:41 AM PDT by paulat

New Daylight Saving May Cause Tech Problems By ANICK JESDANUN, Associated Press Writer 56 minutes ago

When daylight-saving time starts earlier than usual in the United States come 2007, your VCR or DVD recorder could start recording shows an hour late.

Cell phone companies could give you an extra hour of free weekend calls, and people who depend on online calendars may find themselves late for appointments.

An energy bill President Bush is to sign Monday would start daylight time three weeks earlier and end it a week later as an energy-saving measure.

And that has technologists worried about software and gadgets that now compensate for daylight time based on a schedule unchanged since 1987.

"It is unfortunately going to add a little bit of complexity to consumers," said Reid Sullivan, vice president of the entertainment group at Panasonic Consumer Electronics Co. "In some cases, depending on the product, they may have to manually increase or decrease the time."

The upcoming transition evokes memories of Y2K, the Year 2000 rollover that forced programmers to adjust software and other systems that, relying on two digits for the year, never took the 21st century into account.

"It wouldn't be a society-wide catastrophe, but there would be a problem if nothing's done about it or we try to move too quickly," said Dave Thewlis, executive director of a group that promotes standards for calendar software.

Newer VCRs and DVD recorders have built-in calendars to automatically adjust for daylight time. Users would have to override them, switching to "manual" to ensure shows continue to record correctly.

Computers with Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems would need to obtain updates. Though most affected applications would likely be taken care of by the Microsoft fix, calendar systems will need to be checked to ensure that appointments already entered get properly adjusted.

Some electric utilities have advanced meters to adjust rates based on peak and non-peak hours, and studies would be required to determine if any modifications are needed. The telecommunications industry, meanwhile, must ensure that its clocks are properly adjusted to bill customers properly.

Adding to the complications is the fact that many computer programs now treat U.S. and Canadian time zones as the same. If Canada doesn't adopt the new dates, too, Windows, calendars and other software would have to learn additional zones.

Technologists sounded louder alarms as the Year 2000 approached. The programming shortcut caused some computers to wrongly interpret 2000 as 1900, potentially fouling systems that control power grids, air traffic, banking systems and phone networks.

Businesses and governments around the world threw some $200 billion at the problem, and the transition occurred without any worldwide disaster, even leading some critics to suggest they were victims of a big-money bamboozle.

The daylight-saving transition will be at most a mini-Y2K, with the impact of any failure far less reaching.

"We're looking only at a one-hour difference versus setting back (the clock) 99 years," said Randall Palm of the Computing Technology Industry Association.

Dan Bart of the Telecommunications Industry Association said Y2K fears stemmed from computers completely crashing rather than simply displaying a wrong time.

A fax machine might stamp the wrong time for four weeks, but "Do I care? Not really," he said.

Besides, many systems have means for self-correction.

Video recorders, for instance, can synch with time signals sent over PBS broadcasts and through electronic programming guides.

Some watches from Timex Inc. can adjust times based on radio signals from the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and other government sources.

The digital clocks on cell phones are generally synched with the service provider's network clock. Operating systems from Microsoft, Apple Computer Inc. and Cisco Systems Inc. can be configured to check periodically with Internet-based "time servers," though such servers tend to use Greenwich Mean Time and leave daylight adjustments to local machines.

Joe Tasker, senior vice president for government affairs at the Information Technology Association of America, points out that daylight time already varies around the world, and some parts of the United States don't observe it at all.

"We already are used to having a system in place that specifies all the information that we need" for a particular region, Tasker said. "It's just a question of changing the effective date."

Some European countries changed dates in response to a European Union directive to standardize daylight time beginning in 1996. That led to problems with Finnish dates in at least one version of Windows.

A few countries even change dates every year.

Israel, for instance, bases daylight time on the lunar Jewish calendar, and Palestinians change their clocks at different times as an assertion of independence. Windows doesn't even provide an auto-adjust option for the time zone covering Jerusalem.

Moti Tzur, a sales manager at Sakal Electronics Ltd. in Jerusalem, says the constant changes do little to confound manufacturers, sales representatives or consumers.

"We get up and change the time on the VCR ourselves," Tzur said. "These things come with directions."

But while other countries have coped, Americans have largely become complacent and expect many clocks to change automatically because dates have been set for two decades, said Lauren Weinstein, a veteran technologist.

"Missiles won't be launching but it's still going to cause a lot of hassle," he said. Risks grow when "things advance to the point where you expect things to happen automatically and you expect it to be correct."

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Associated Press writer Kristen Stevens in Jerusalem contributed to this story.


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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I dunno, but I'm gonna party like it's 1999.

Are you ready for Y2.005K?

41 posted on 08/07/2005 12:36:33 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: paulat

These moron politicians have their heads shove up their butts. They never see the light of day.


42 posted on 08/07/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by politicalwit (Due to the shortage of virgins, all suicide bombings have been cancelled.)
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To: nhoward14

Mankind has reached a critcal point in it's history. America's attempt to 'tinker' with the natural order of things will destroy us all! I just can't help believing that Halliburton is behind this proposal.


43 posted on 08/07/2005 12:57:05 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: American Quilter
In general our lives are skewed to the later part of the day. Get up at 7am (noon -5 hours), into work at 8am (noon -4 hours), leave work at 5pm (noon +5 hours), eat dinner, watch TV, go out, go to bed at 11 pm (noon +11 hours). So the typical middle of the time awake is 3pm. DST moves the clock a little so that solar noon is at 1pm.

My own preference would be to end DST at the end of September.

6:30 sunsets starting in September. Yuck! Give me every bit of evening light I can get. Light is wasted if I'm just eating breakfast and driving to work.

44 posted on 08/07/2005 12:58:43 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
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To: paulat
As a mainframe software developer at the the time, I laughed at the Y2K scare of the late late 90's. I worked on so many computer programs that use dates, such a payroll and accounts receivable to name just a couple, that I knew changing the software would not difficult. I was right. This is the same thing.
45 posted on 08/07/2005 1:01:49 PM PDT by CAWats (Most women find me utterly facinating.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
This is so stupid! How does cutting an hour off in the morning and adding it to the evening "save energy?"

If DST is such a good thing, why not just have it year round and leave the clocks alone??? And if it's not, then why are we messing with our clocks twice a year anyway?

Daylight Savings Time is the most idiotic concept ever invented!

From now on, you're my designated ranter on this subject. < :)

46 posted on 08/07/2005 1:05:16 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Although I can't imagine why...

Chicago. Cute.


47 posted on 08/07/2005 1:05:32 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Baynative

THAT'S messed up!


48 posted on 08/07/2005 1:07:00 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: jocon307

When I was a kid you had to take a sledgehammer to the sundial post twice a year.


49 posted on 08/07/2005 1:12:49 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (All your tagline are belong to us.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
From now on, you're my designated ranter on this subject. < :)

I'm also against the designated hitter rule, regular season inter-league competition, holidays observed on mondays for the labor unions instead of their actual dates, etc., etc., etc.

50 posted on 08/07/2005 1:13:32 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: Dog Gone

Dog Gone, LMAO at the hourglass thing!!! You rock!!! LMAO!


51 posted on 08/07/2005 1:44:25 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (What do you like best about your life?)
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To: digger48



LOL!!!


52 posted on 08/07/2005 1:45:41 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (What do you like best about your life?)
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To: Fabozz

That's nothing. In my day, we had a water clock. Every spring, I'd have to lug heavy jugs full of water down from the mountains to pour in the clock to turn it forward. Then in the fall, I had to get under the relief valve and drink the extra hour away to turn in back!

Of course, you tell the youth of today that and they won't believe you!


53 posted on 08/07/2005 1:48:01 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: rockabyebaby; Dog Gone
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...like sands through the hourglass...so are the days of our lives....

54 posted on 08/07/2005 1:56:17 PM PDT by paulat
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To: rockabyebaby

We just got DST in IN, state will STILL be carved up, and we STILL don't know what time zone we'll be in. We'll either have sunup at 5 or sunset at 10

To me, sun comes up, sun goes down....I work somewhere in between. The rest of DST is an inconvenience at best.


55 posted on 08/07/2005 1:56:22 PM PDT by digger48
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To: paulat

This extra hour of daylight could really screw up Halloween and Trick-or-Treating.


56 posted on 08/07/2005 1:59:59 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: ALL ARUBA ALL THE TIME)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I'm also against ... holidays observed on mondays for the labor unions instead of their actual dates, etc., etc., etc.

You got something against 3-day weekends? < :O

57 posted on 08/07/2005 2:01:12 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: paulat

I HATE DST!! My children get messed up for several weeks when the time changes.


58 posted on 08/07/2005 2:01:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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To: nhoward14
That's nothing. In my day, we had a water clock. Every spring, I'd have to lug heavy jugs full of water down from the mountains to pour in the clock to turn it forward. Then in the fall, I had to get under the relief valve and drink the extra hour away to turn in back!

What a newbie!!!!

59 posted on 08/07/2005 2:01:54 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: nhoward14


LOL!

Damn youth of today have it so freakin' easy, can't tell you how many miles I had to walk to school IN WINTER, freakin' snowflakes falling all over me and OMG when it rained, oh dear, and about the time thingy, damn, a waterclock you say??? Hell I just had a rooster, up at dawn, sleep at dusk, simple! LMAO!!!!


60 posted on 08/07/2005 2:03:20 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (What do you like best about your life?)
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